# The Spiral Theory

I need to show this to my atheist brothers before I start attempting this on theists.

Please berate me as much as possible. All I ask is you try to disprove my claim. I know the burden of proof is on the claimant, but as we understand logical absolutes, there is a point where only a disproof will do.

Existence is. The Statement.

It is 1. And it is not 1. At the same time. And 0 is the end?

Existence is. This is the logic chain.

First, the One.

Then, Dualism.

Then, Spiral.

Thus, Existence.

I have been trying to understand 1 since I was. My attention piqued when I left the whom and discovered everything else. I had finally escaped the system only to find myself in another system. Will this ever stop? I don't know. But I will spiral upward and see what happens.

Existence is. The math chain.

y = 1, Point

y = x, Line

y = ±x, Spiral

I have been trying to understand math since I saw 1. My attention piqued in elementary school when it came so easy. It really is the simplest skill and most true thing humans can study. I knew very little of math until I completed trigonometry. Then we were told to understand calculus. The whole time we had been learning 0 and 1, then they throw ±1 at us. It was mind blowing. I only understood it recently.

Existence is. The religious claim.

God is.

God is greater than all things.

Thus, God is Existence.

I have been trying to understand religion since my mother told me, "God is." My attention piqued in community college when I was able to declare atheism. I was young and very naive, but I knew for a fact that God, as every description I had ever heard failed to describe, is not real. Everyone is an atheist relative to everyone else's god.

Existence is. The Justified True Belief claim.

P is true.

S believes that P is true, and

S is justified in believing that P is true.

I have been trying to understand fundamental truth since I was born, but it really piqued my interest during Philosophy 101. As I tried to understand Justified True Belief, I came to the understanding that truth is relative. Truth is relative to both the truth transmitter and the truth receiver.

Once I understood there is both truth and no truth in the statement. I had to dig deeper.

All of my justifications so far have lead to this. This is the simplest way to can transmit this message without being misunderstood. Please give me your thoughts.

The%20Spiral%20Theory%20by%20Andrew%20Brown.pdf

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Comment by Simon Paynton on February 11, 2017 at 2:17pm

y = 1, Point

y = x, Line

y = ±x, Spiral

Surely y=1 is a horizontal line at height 1;   y=x is a diagonal line going through the origin;  y= ±x is a cross shape going through the origin, not a spiral.

Comment by Reg The Fronkey Farmer on February 11, 2017 at 3:25pm

Existence is....not a predicate.......Kant... (Oh yes, I can!!)

Comment by Simon Paynton on February 12, 2017 at 5:20am

"Dualism.

Then, Spiral."

- I don't see that this follows in any way.

Comment by Andrew Brown on February 12, 2017 at 9:58am

Did you read the document I attached?

The concept is easier to convey with image.

Comment by Andrew Brown on February 12, 2017 at 10:09am

I will try again. That is all I can do.

What is the ultimate truth?

I say, where we come from.

I disagree with racism and lineage study because that is just another dumb reason to divide us.

We come from a First. I have been trying to solve it since I read of the big bang.

Everything starts from the First, from God, from the Prime, from the Beginning, from whatever that fucking moment where something came from nothing because it MUST. The thing that is has no choice in the matter. We just are and deal with that as it comes. How different was it for the First?

The First thing doesn't have what we have, but we everything with that First Thing.

I will not describe the first thing because whatever it was, it did become two, then three, four, five, six and a boon at 7 then so on through the Prime Numbers.

Some people suspect the First thing was a quanta responsible for gravity. This makes sense in a way, but who is to say that all quanta are responsible for gravity?

We know everything that is tends towards groups. Like things follow like things. To make a second thing happen, it took the first thing.

Every atom in existence is vibrating. Every human in existence is also vibrating. Everything you touch is vibrating. The fundamental frequency of Existence is constant and insistent. There is no choice, we must react to events and use everything we have learned up to this point to understand and make the best possible decision.

All of this points to the fundamental truth that, even if there is a creator at the end of the tunnel, Everything works the way it works and it supposed to work that way. We must understand why then how it works to dominate it. We humans must constantly improve because it is the first prerogative. Everything after that is up to you. How we decide to improve ourselves is up to us. The beautiful diversity of everything is the reason everything is getting better. Because it MUST become more fit to be the best fit to finally be 1 again.

Comment by Andrew Brown on February 12, 2017 at 5:51pm

Simon,

X = 0, Y = 1 is a Single Point.

X = ±1, Y = X, is a Circle.

X = ±1, Y = ±1, is a Circle that can change in either Positive or Negative at any point which forms a spiral.

Think about the Dynamic, not the Static.

We must start from a Static state, Stability.

Then we move forward to reach the Dynamic state, Motion. This also requires Stability to continue Motion. Therefore, we start in a Static state, 100% stable, then we initiate movement and we are less than 100% stable, but we are no longer Static. Then, after completing the motion, we come back to a 100% stable state, hopefully in a better position then where we started.

This is what I am literally trying to say, but it is obviously a bit confusing because it is so close to the fundamental truth that we are all 1.

Comment by Simon Paynton on February 13, 2017 at 1:16am

This doesn't look like any mathematics that I know.  Are you talking about parametric equations?

"We humans must constantly improve because it is the first prerogative."  -

I agree with this, there is an evolutionary imperative on all living things to thrive more.

I find that in the main this is very vague and woolly, and one step doesn't follow on in a solidly logical fashion from the preceding one.  It's good to have theories but I find that this one really doesn't hang together, it's seems just like what you "want" to be true, and that's not good enough.

"it did become two, then three, four, five, six and a boon at 7 then so on through the Prime Numbers.

- primeness is a property of numbers only and not of the physical world.

"Madman or genius?"  History will tell.

Comment by Andrew Brown on February 13, 2017 at 12:38pm

Hi Simon,

First of all, thank you for reading and trying to understand me. I want you to know I am not insulting you or your intelligence. I get push back sometimes if I try to explain things in the simplest terms and I need you to know that I am not talking down to you. You are my peer.

"Everything is One."

Do you agree with this statement? Please explain why?

Comment by Simon Paynton on February 20, 2017 at 3:33am

"Everything is One."

- I don't know.  I don't feel that way, and it seems to be a mystical feeling that some people have, that everything is connected by some sort of consciousness.

Do you agree with this statement, and why / why not?

Comment by Andrew Brown on February 20, 2017 at 11:18am

Hi Simon,

Yes, I agree with the statement, "Everything is One."

I have many reasons, but here is one that convinced me.

Andrew Brown is, Andrew Brown's Parents are, Andrew Brown's Grandparents were, etc, Humans are.

Knowing just a bit about genetics, I know the difference between you and I is less than 0.5%, between human and chimpanzee is <2%, between human and fruit fly is ~36%, etc.

All life connects through evolution.

When you realize what evolution is pointing at, you realize the difference between our star and others are minor enough to surmise life is cranking away somewhere else.

http://genetics.thetech.org/online-exhibits/genes-common

When I look at my best friend, I recognize he is my brother in every way that counts. When I look at another salary man driving to work with a coffee, I recognize he is me with a different experience. When I look at a fat kid walking the street with his mother, I recognize he is where I was. We are all connected by billions of factors.

When I saw and continue to see the connections between myself, other humans, animals, plants, single-cell organisms and stars, I realized I never want to hurt another being. Then the tragic truth hit me when I realized that I must hurt other beings just to continue life. It is a tough place to inhabit, but it natural.

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