Should dangerous drugs be legalized? What about marijuana..?


Presenting a new scale of drug harm that rates the damage to users themselves and to wider society, the scientists rated alcohol the most harmful overall and almost three times as harmful as cocaine or tobacco.


If the government wants to protect us from ourselves....

Than why are alcohol and cigarettes legal?


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Look at the history of industrial giants in the US, what industries they were in and their ability to by legislation (funny how that hasn't changed).Alcohol and cigarette industry is paying congress in election campaign funds so they remain legal.

I'm pasting the history below how cannabis became illegal.

In 1896 Mr Diesel invented the diesel engine to run on vegetable and seed oils, mainly hemp. Du Pont petrochemical company and it's major financial backer and key political ally, Treasury Secretary Andrew Mellon. Mellon was a banker who took over Gulf Oil Corporation. In 1913, Henry Ford opened his first auto assembly line, and Gulf Oil opened its first drive-in gas station. In 1919, with ethanol fuel poised to comptete with gasoline, Alchohol Prohibition descended on the nation. Lucky Mellon. When President Harding made him Secretary of the Treasury, he was considered the richest man in America. In the 1920's, Mellon arranged for his bank to loan his buddies as Du Pont money to take over General Motors. Du Pont had developed new gasoline additives and the sulfate and sulfite process that made trees into paper.

In the 1930's, Ford Motor Company operated a successful biomass fuel conversion plant using cellulose at Iron Mountain, Michigan. Ford engineers extracted methanol, charcoal fuel, tar, pitch ethyl-acetate and creosote from hemp. The same fundamental ingredients for industry were also being made from fossil fuels.

During the same period, Du Pont was developing cellophane, nylon, and dacron from from fossil fuels. Du Pont held the patents on many synthetics and became a leader in the development of paint, rayon, synthetic rubber, plastics, chemicals, photographic film, insecticides and agricultural chemicals.

From the Du Pont 1937 Annual Report we find a clue to what started to happen next: "The revenue raising power of government may be converted into an instrument for forcing acceptance of sudden new ideas of industrial and social reoganization".

Ok, enter William Randolph Hearst. Hearst's company was a major consumer of the cheap tree-pulp paper that had replaced hemp paper in the late 19th century. The Hearst Corporation was also a major logging company, and produced Du Pont's chemical-drenched tree pulp paper, which yellowed and fell apart after a short time. Fueled by the advertising sold to the petrochemical industries, Hearst Newspapers were also known for their sensationalist stories. Hearst despised poor people, black people, chinese, hindus, and all other minorities. Most of all he hated Mexicans. Pancho Villa's cannabis-smoking troops had reclaimed some 800,000 acres of prime timberland from Hearst in the name of the mexican peasants. And all of the low-quality paper the company planned to make by deforesting it's vast timber holdings were in danger of being replaced by low-cost, high quality paper made from hemp.

When the Federal Bureau of Narcotics was formed in 1932, Mellon's nephew Harry Anslinger was appointed its head, a job in Mellon's treasury department that was created just for him. Treasury agents were beginning to operate on their own agenda. Deep in the throes of the depression, congress began to reexamine all federal agencies. Anslinger began to fear that his department was in danger of emasculation. Although worldwide, hemp was still big business, in 1935 the Treasury Department began secretly drafting a bill called The Marihuana Tax Act. The Treasury Department's general counsul Herman Oliphant was put in charge of writing something that could get past both Congress and the Court disguised as a tax revenue bill. Congress wasn't all that interested in the matter, seeing as all the information they had to work with was what was provided to them by Anslinger.They deliberately collected horror stories on the evils of marihuana pulled primarily from the Hearst newspapers, called Anslinger's Gore Files. Crimes that had never happened at all were being attributed to marihuana.

So, in 1937, Anslinger went before a poorly attended committee hearing and called for a total ban on marihuana. He stated under oath "This drug is entirely the monster Hyde, the harmful effects of which cannot be measured". Bureaucrats planned the hearings to avoid the discussion of the full House and presented the measure in the guise of a tax revenue bill brought to the six member House Ways and Means Committee, chaired by Du Pont ally Robert Doughton of North Carolina. This bypassed the House without further hearings and passed it over to the Senate Finance Committee, controlled by another ally, Prentiss Brown of Michigan, where it was rubber stamped into law. Once on the books, Anslinger would "administer" the licensing process to make sure that no more commercial hemp was ever grown in the United States. Clinton Hesterm assistant general counsel for the Department of the Treasury, explained to the House Committee " The leading newspapers of the United States have recognized the seriousness of this problem and have advocated federal legislation to control.. marihuana...The marijuana cigarette is one of the most insidious of all forms of dope, largely because of the failure of the public to understand its fatal qualities."

At the last minute, a few pro-hemp witnesses showed up. Most of the confusion came from the using of the word "marihuana". Most people had no idea that "marihuana", merely a slang word taken from a drinking song celebrating Pancho Villa's victory, "La Cucaracha", was the same thing as cannabis hemp, a plant which had been an important crop since the founding of the country. Ralph Loziers of the National Oil Seed Institute showed up representing paint manufacturers and lubrication oil processors, and stated that hempseed was an essential commodity. Dr. William C. Woodward of the American Medical Association spoke in defense of cannabis medicines and in protest of the way the bill was handled. Woodward complained that there was no certain data that marihuana use had increased, and stated that if it had, the "newspaper exploitation of the habit had done more to increase it than anything else". Asked point blank if he thought federal legislation was necessary, he replied "I do not .. it is not a medical addiction that is involved." Woodward went on to criticize the way the word "marihuana" had been used to deliberately confuse the medical and industrial hemp communities. "In all you have heard here thus far, no mention has been made of any excessive use of the drug or its excessive distribution by any pharmacist. And yet the burden of this bill is placed heavily on the doctors and pharmacists of the country, and may I say very heavily - most heavily, possibly of all - on the farmers of this country... We can not understand yet ... why this bill should have been prepared in secret for two years without any initiative, even to the profession, that it was being prepared ... no medical man would identify this bill with a medicine until he read it through, because marijuana is not a drug, ... simply a name given cannabis."

A few days later, Representative Fred Vinson of Kentucky was asked to summarize the AMA's position. He lied to the effect that the medical group's legislative counsul (Woodward) "Not only gave this measure full support, but also the approval from the AMA."

The act passed without a roll call vote. Now we can see why it was prepared in secret - passage of the Act put all hemp industries firmly under the control of the very special interests that most benefited from its repression over the years - prohibition police and bureaucrats working in collusion with the petrochemical companies, the timber companies, the alcohol and tobacco industries, the pharmaceutical drug companies, and today, the urine testing, property seizure, police and prison industries.

In that same year, 1937, Du Pont filed its patent on Nylon, a synthetic fiber that took over many of the textile and cordage markets that would have gone to hemp. More than half the American cars on the road were built by GM, which guaranteed Du Pont a captive market for paints, varnishes, plastics, and rubber, all which could have been made from hemp. Furthermore, all GM cars would subsequently be designed to use tetra-ethyl leaded fuel exclusively, which contained additives that Du Pont manufactured. All competition from hemp had been outlawed.

Sounds unbelievable.

Money buys away everything in this country... Votes, laws and our rights....


Marijuana isn't a drug, its a plant that a bunch of grown men got together and made silly is that?

A drug is a drug..

alcohol is a is nicotine...

pop it, snort it, inject it ,smoke it, drink it...
I have to stay away for all of the above... but I don't think I should tell others how to live their lives.
But the government does....

Everything you put in your body is broken down to a chemical component. High fructose corn syrup is much more dangerous to the health of a person than Cannabis which studies have proven over and over again to helpful for many medical conditions. There is no lethal dose of  cannabis. The report in the 1990's that it kills brain cells it was found if you were to wear a mask and pump smoke for extended period of time the lack of oxygen does kill brain cells.

How a someone personally use cannabis like anything else can be harmful to that person but for the government to classify it as Class 1 narcotic is bull and is driven by the politics of corporate profits.

 I think I now understand why some people are religous. I read this online /

Examples of NARCOTIC <an irradicable sense of self-righteousness seems to be the narcotic that inures these religious fanatics from any realization of the harm they have done> 


 It does cause problems with schizophrenia...I've seen that, first hand..

Patients with schizophrenia would come back from home leave, state they smoked pot and would be in crisis.

Marijuana gives people with schizophrenia a quick rush but worsens their psychotic symptoms within a few hours, a new study reveals.

Oddly enough, some evidence suggests that a second marijuana component called cannabidiol actually has antipsychotic effects. D'Souza said he and other researchers are testing whether administering cannabidiol by itself can alleviate psychotic symptoms.


Go figure... 

I love how people that get addicted to opiates claim they are different than heroin users...

The body turns both of them into morphine...Just because a drug  is legal doesn't make it ok to abuse.

Marijuana is a widely used term because THC is not the only active ingredient.

Semantics is not the issue of this thread, but what the hell

To smoke marijuana... To inhale or ingest THC and CBD... is that better?


Top of the mornin to ya, Mr. Anderson


I wasn't arguing the semantics, but just clearly defining that Marijuana isn't in the same category as what most people consider "drugs". These synthetic lab pharmaceuticals that are being prescribed is where some real danger is, and of course the hard street drugs. Its a therapeutic substance that has been proven time and time again to be non-harmful. Recreational use is just fine (healthier than alcohol and cigarettes) and the uses in the medical community are amazing! A Harvard study shows that it actually slows the growth of some types of tumors!

Sorry, I misunderstood.

Marijuana killed my ambitions, isolated me from good people and cost me alot of money over the years.

It is in fact physically addictive, despite contrary beliefs. Scientists has proven that through many studies.

I know because I'm living proof and have researched it to death. If you don't believe me do a search on it.

However, if your a casual user or need it for medical purposes , it's awesome.

Just ask yourself, can I do without it for a few days, a week, or hey lets get

crazy... a month. If you smoke it everyday, you will find out what I'm talking about.

I think people should get all the information that's out there and then chose for themselves.

Choice is what I'm talking about... Don't make drug users criminals..

Just because I don't chose to ingest it, doesn't mean I should order someone not too...




"Prohibition just caused a huge spike in crime and did nobody any good."

And this is true for all drugs and prostitution as well.  Society benefits greatly when these things are legalized and regulated.  Legalization does not automatically mean widespread abuse.  In fact, alcohol related crimes would most likely decrease if marijuana were made legal.



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