Hi, I'm Israel

I'm new to the site, at first I joined only to correct someone about Christian morality but I think I'll stay to see what some (not all) atheist think about everything. So yeah, I'm here to see the "culture" I guess and what are the trends in thought among at-least some atheist and when I decide I can, correct misunderstandings in Christian principle and I like the chat-room, so you might see me use it. Alright cool, thanks for reading and if you have any questions about the Christian faith, I'd be happy to answer em if I can.

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Permalink Reply by Wesley on October 13, 2012 at 1:20pm

That's what I picked up as well.. My father was a methodist minister for over 40 years.. AND one of the best people to ever walk the planet in my opinion of course. He taught us to think for ourselves.

I won't go through my history but suffice it to say that I went through the gamut of 'spiritual' experience...and that it was the sincere search for truth which has led me to my current position as not accepting of any of the god proposals. It wasn't an easy decision but a long drawn out hard fought battle that has taken me to today.

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Permalink Reply by archaeopteryx on October 13, 2012 at 3:37pm

One of the finest men I ever knew was a Methodist minister as well - he drove a 15-mile round trip at 6:30 in the AM, to officiate at my first wedding, as I preferred to be married in a park, rather than a church. He literally built his own church, brick by brick, working six days a week, as his Bible told him to do, and upon it's completion, the god he followed so faithfully all of his life, rewarded him with a slow death by cancer.

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Permalink Reply by Simon Paynton on October 13, 2012 at 3:54pm

Sounds like a nice guy. He may have died of cancer, but he probably didn't regret his life, and IF there's an afterlife, he's happy now.

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Permalink Reply by Israel on October 18, 2014 at 1:36am

Hey Wesley

When I first signed in here, I wasn't looking to save people. I just wanted to check it out. Today, however, I wouldn't mind trying to evangelize.

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Permalink Reply by Israel on October 18, 2014 at 2:28am

Okay. I just read the guidelines. Its clear that, that's not allowed. Thank you

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Permalink Reply by Michael on October 13, 2012 at 8:09am

Here to correct others misunderstandings but will not accept the correction of your own misunderstandings regarding evolution and geology.

The earth is less then 10,000 years old? This is beyond ignorance and does not reflect well on your credibility. There is literally no evidence to suggest the earth is that young. It is impossible. The very existence of such diversity on earth refutes that position. Hell, there is a colony of trees in Utah older than that.

I am sure any "correction" that you will make will be rationalizations and the extreme mental gymnastics so common amongst apologists. Just as I used to do while in seminary. Good luck to you.

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Permalink Reply by Simon Paynton on October 13, 2012 at 8:23am

But there's "believing a load of bullshit" and "behaving properly", and they are two separate things. So far Israel has proved he knows how to behave properly. Most people believe strange things, and it's not a moral failing.

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Permalink Reply by Dr.Grixis on October 13, 2012 at 8:31am

There are different kinds of truths, of which moral truth is only one. It seems to me that people are mostly questioning Israel's reasoning and understanding, not his character. The most important in any person is who he treats others. I've seen all kinds of theists do terrific and horrible things in the name of their deity, theism, or a lack thereof, is not a requirement for moral behavior.