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Comment by Araina on August 1, 2011 at 10:04pm

What?  Serving men? 

Comment by Stephen Walski on August 1, 2011 at 10:23pm

Had to top Skycomets picture.

Comment by Laura Johnson on August 1, 2011 at 11:53pm

@Jenn-I had the same rule growing up...and no pants..ankle-length skirts only, and necklines no more than 3 fingers below the clavicle..ugh

Comment by Albert Bakker on August 2, 2011 at 1:57am

The most harmful outflow of this bizarre nonsense is a tendency to blaming victims of rape. That's even growing apparently, even in secular circles. Because if women do not dress "modestly" or when more assertively put "provocatively" they can only expect to be raped by decent men who are helplessly victimized by a purposefully short-circuited brain.

This goes so far as even a third of British women saying in a poll that rape victims should be at least partly blamed for being raped for the way they dress. (This often is just assumed to be the case, but that's besides the point.)

It's not the fabric, it's the situation, one of vulnerability, that seems to be the main factor. Which happens also to be a point (the awareness to which) Rebecca Watson of SGU fame recently was trying to make - in vain to a whole lot of deliberately stupid dicks as it turned out.

Comment by Arcus on August 2, 2011 at 2:12am

@Albert: It's in many ways the same as blaming the guy carrying a million dollars in cash for being robbed or the mountain hiker who has to be rescued after getting lost in heavy fog. Not their fault at all, though a few maybe should have taken a bit more precaution to avoid ending up in such a situation in the first place.

Comment by Sassan K. on August 2, 2011 at 2:51am

Blaming the victim is always wrong and abhorrent.

Comment by Albert Bakker on August 2, 2011 at 3:24am

Arcus, you are a cynical bastard, but in essence you are right to a limited extent. I take it you are saying that dangers exist, that you should take them as a given, and wise people should be aware of it and take precautions.

Let's cast aside the prohibition for women on entering situations of vulnerability (the vast majority of rape victims know the rapist well) for a moment. I don't think you can apply these comparisons to women who like to wear clothing that they feel comfortable with, or express themselves with or feel beautiful and desirable in or whatever, and should be free to do so without being (sexually) harassed or blamed in cases of mentioned atrocities.

This would limit their freedom and frankly inalienable rights to be their comfortable selves in ways that are not comparable to a limitation of the freedom to carefree carry around millions of dollars in cash or the inalienable right to immediate professional assistance when going out cycling in unknown terrain in dangerous circumstances.

Comment by Sassan K. on August 2, 2011 at 3:32am

A female should always carry pepper spray with her on her key chain. It is a dangerous and nasty world.

Comment by Arcus on August 2, 2011 at 3:39am

"Arcus, you are a cynical bastard"

It's actually my most endearing quality. ;)

But in seriousness, the only blame I can perhaps lay out is that going out, getting black-out drunk and then not take a taxi home with a friend is irresponsible and immature. None "deserves" getting raped, but I have a bit less compassion when dumb shit happens to dumb people.

As an example, when my buddy who sometimes become an angry drunk completely undeservedly got punched in the face and had a tooth knocked out, I took the opportunity to point out that he sometimes act like an idiot when drunk and that he needed to immediately go to the police. It's called the art of constructive critizism.

Comment by Jimmy Boy on August 2, 2011 at 3:57am

This is truly horrible: she looks and sounds just like my mum...


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