The first in a series that explore the highly avoided subject of: Was Jesus a Myth?
@Gaytor - thanks man - that has exactly the info I am looking for to counter an argument of the validity of “Dates” to prove the authenticity of prophecy with the Jehovah Witnesses. There is a lot to consider there.
Interesting, but not necessarily factual. I am going to play Devil's Advocate here a bit. 1 Thessalonians was Paul's first writing, not Galatians although both date to a very early time. Second, the premise is that x because of y therefore z. I.e. Non-Christians wrote about Christianity because of Paul therefore Jesus is not needed. This is a fallacious claim as what about Paul's source? Paul's writings are the earliest surviving documents about Christianity, but the operative word here is surviving. Point being that notoriety of a group needs to be achieved before historians will bother writing about them.
There is no doubt among many actual scholars that the gospels are vastly exaggerated, Greco-Roman biographies often are. Simply look at Plutarch's Life of Alexander if you want an example. No historian takes Plutarch to be historically accurate but there is little doubt that Alexander the Great did some of those things. The point of a Greco-Roman biography is not to tell us historical facts but to tell us biographical details that explain the nature of a person. This has to do with the Greco-Roman view of what was to become psychology, in the first few centuries. They believed that people had an innate nature about them, this nature was unchanging and could be viewed in the actions of a person from birth until death, as such biographies presented stories, sometimes exaggerated and sometimes manufactured whole cloth, to explain that nature. This is the major flaw that most Christians suffer from and I witness many skeptics fall into with them. Reading Matthew, Mark, Luke and John as a history text is like reading Alice in Wonderland as a geology text.
Richard Carrier? I don't think so, if it is I haven't heard anything about it.
I think one can make the argument that Jesus never existed, I have even made the argument myself before, but a hard and fast conclusion will never be reached in my opinion.
David Fitzgerald gave a great talk on this at Skepticon 3 last year.
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