Comment by Dustin on September 17, 2011 at 6:35pm

Reading one these comments reminded me of something.  

 

At a family dinner, somebody mentioned something about the political candidates and a social issue.  I then went into homosexuality and their views on that as well.  The moment I spoke the word 'homosexual' , my family flipped the fuck out on me and told me there were children around.  

I could not have been more offended in front of my family before.  They were trying to silence a discussion about something that is perfectly natural to speak about as if the word 'homosexual' had some hidden and magical power to turn their children into raging homo's.  

 

Shhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!  Don't talk about that around the children, they're too young ... !

 

AND my family is not Christian.  It's so disgusting that homophobia is so rampant even among non religious people.  

Comment by Unseen on September 17, 2011 at 7:03pm

Well, some of the problem is homophobia, but not all of it. There is also hatred of homosexuals, for which we don't seem to have a word as glib as "homophobia," which itself literally means "fear of men or mankind," so even it is used in lieu of a more precise term.

 

Some may fear gays, but I'm sure some simply hate gays. This woman clearly lives in fear, but I think some of the bashing and murder of gays is driven by hatred more than fear.

 

And no, not all hatred is fear-based.

Comment by kris feenstra on September 17, 2011 at 8:47pm

..."homophobia," which itself literally means "fear of men or mankind," so even it is used in lieu of a more precise term.

 

It doesn't.  The words 'homophobia' and 'homosexual' were both poorly constructed, but in both cases they use 'homo' in the Greek sense meaning 'same'.  'Phobia' also doesn't refer just to fear.  I believe, looking at etymology, fear and flight are the original meanings, but words change.  The term can refer to aversion as well, and, in sociological contexts, I think there's a fairly well established sense of the meaning antipathy.

 

That said, you do raise a good point that there isn't a singular, simplistic explanation for the feelings and motives that drive this sort of behaviour.

Comment by Unseen on September 17, 2011 at 9:10pm

@Kris Feenstra   Actually "homo" also means self, so "homophobia" also means fear of self. Well, I think fear and hatred are distinct enough to deserve separate words.

 

Anyway, the point behind the point I was making that gays all too frequently refer to the motive behind attacks as "homophobia," which to me means fear of gays, which is kind of bizarrely optimistic.

 

Sometimes, however, I think it's just hatred of gays. It's strange we don't have a word for that.

 

 

Comment by kris feenstra on September 18, 2011 at 12:54am

Sometimes, however, I think it's just hatred of gays. It's strange we don't have a word for that.

 

That's what I was explaining.  The word for hatred against homosexuality is still homophobia.  It's used in the same sense as Anglophobia 

Comment by Ghost The Smoker on September 22, 2011 at 9:07pm

You know what's sad, this isn't even satire.

Comment by David Smith on January 2, 2014 at 8:11pm

I'm lost for words on this one.

http://www.truetolerance.org/ theres a 'contact us' section at the bottom.  It will make no difference at all, but i'm going to leave a little feedback

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