Tea Party Insanity and The Death of the GOP

After 3 1/2 years of constant complaining about the ACA, I'm tired of the Tea Party, the American Taliban. As a moderate, I refuse to vote for ANY Republican...

Comment by Gallup's Mirror on October 14, 2013 at 9:09am

As a moderate, I refuse to vote for ANY Republican...

So do I-- ever since I was old enough to vote-- except that I refuse as a reasonable person, not a moderate.

Comment by Thomas Patrick on October 14, 2013 at 9:25am

I've always voted for the democratic presidential candidate. I have voted for republican representatives before.

Comment by Reg The Fronkey Farmer on October 14, 2013 at 5:05pm

Surely any reasonable person now sees the GOP as an embarrassment?

Comment by Gallup's Mirror on October 14, 2013 at 6:00pm

Surely any reasonable person now sees the GOP as an embarrassment?

Speaking of that:

There is no way we can default if we follow the Constitution. The Fourteenth Amendment, Section 4, requires that we service our debt first. We currently collect more than enough tax revenue to service our debt if we do that first. - Sarah Palin

What? First, there isn't enough tax revenue to pay the bills on a day-to-day basis. Second, "if we do that first" suggests the US Treasury Department has a prioritized payment system in place: so let's use it to issue high-risk payouts first!

The problem? It's fantasy. No such prioritized payment system exists. The actual system of payments and in-receipts is so elaborate that it would take a monumental reinvention of the whole system to enable prioritization-- that's without even addressing the bitter politics involved in working out who gets paid first-- even if the government weren't shut down and Treasury were actually staffed right now to begin working on it.

Move over evolution denial, climate change denial, birth certificate denial, and polling denial, there's a new GOP embarrassment in town: default denial.

Comment by Unseen on October 14, 2013 at 7:56pm

I once wrote about lobbying, and this week I called some Republicans I used to talk to (and some that they recommended I talk to) about the effect the shutdown is having on the Republican Party in Washington. The response I got was fear of Republican decline and loathing of the Tea Party: One lobbyist and former Hill staffer lamented the “fall of the national party,” another the rise of “suburban revolutionaries,” and another of “people alienated from business, from everything.” There is a growing fear among Washington Republicans that the party, which has lost two national elections in a row, is headed for history’s dustbin. And I believe that they are right to worry.

The battle over the shutdown has highlighted the cracks and fissures within the party. The party’s leadership has begun to lose control of its members in Congress. The party’s base has become increasingly shrill and is almost as dissatisfied with the Republican leadership in Washington as it is with President Obama. New conservative groups have echoed, and taken advantage of, this sentiment by targeting Republicans identified with the leadership for defeat. And a growing group of Republican politicians, who owe their election to these groups, has carried the battle into the halls of Congress. That is spelling doom for the Republican coalition that has kept the party afloat for the last two decades.

American party coalitions are heterogeneous, but they endure as along as the different groups find more agreement with each other than with the opposition. After Republicans won back the Congress in 1994, they developed a political strategy to hold their coalition together. Many people contributed to the strategy including Newt Gingrich, Karl Rove, Paul Coverdell, Paul Weyrich, and Ralph Reed, but the chief architect was probably Grover Norquist, a political operative who, along with Rove and Reed, came of age in the early Reagan years. The strategy was based on creating an alliance between business, which had sometimes divided its loyalties between Republicans and Democrats, and the array of social and economic interest groups that had begun backing Republicans. (source)

I have another thread which has evolved into a discussion similar to this one here.

Comment by Pope Beanie on October 14, 2013 at 9:15pm

Woo hoo, the World vs the Tea Party Zombies!

Comment by Kairan Nierde on October 15, 2013 at 1:38am

I'll say one thing--these Tea Party extremists make me long for a good right of center republican minority. 

If the GOP loses currency, I just hope the process doesn't wreck our reputation any furthur. I am very concerned about how this insanity plays out in internation relations

Comment by M.M. on October 15, 2013 at 2:35am

When you openly embrace the fear mongering, hate fueled elements of your political party, you deserve to reap what you sow. Who did not see this coming?

Good riddance to such short sighted, short term goal oriented opportunists.

Comment by Ron Humphrey on October 15, 2013 at 4:54am

 OH that it were true that the tea party were headed for oblivion.  I don't see that happening.  I see the Republican party re-inventing itself and becoming the party of the right wing extremists.

As long as the voters see the tea party as their personal salvation, it is never going away.  I fail to see how any thinking person can vote against their interests, which is indeed what that person does when he/she votes for a right wing candidate.

Wouldn't it be wonderful if the election for a new house of representatives were next month instead of a year down the road?  THe attention span of the average voter is not long enough for this to affect the 2014 election.

Comment by Unseen on October 15, 2013 at 7:24am

@Kairan Nierde - I'll say one thing--these Tea Party extremists make me long for a good right of center republican minority. 

I'm thinking perhaps the GOP will split, perhaps with the Tea Party keeping the Republican name and the traditional Republicans forming what might be called a true Conservative Party.

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