Stanhope on Jews - Religion - Astrology and Apes

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Comment by Avi Katz on January 29, 2012 at 2:50am

The usual response when people make bad, dumb Jew-hate jokes is to call them 'antisemites'-- I think Stanhope is just a non-denominational, equal- opportunity ignorant asshole. But an interesting Jew item: It's well-known that here in Israel about 25% of the population define themselves as 'religious' and oserve the rules like dietary laws and wearing a skullcap. But in a recent poll 70% of Israel's Jewish population say they believe in 'God'. Puzzling, no? If they buy into the story, why don't they follow the rules? And if they don't buy the rules, why accept the fairy-tale?

Comment by Ron V on January 29, 2012 at 8:47am

Avi- it's nice to see someone from Israel here- I hope "freethought," atheism, and Humanism expand in Israel and, more importantly, the entire region.

I lived in Israel for about a year when I was younger- the geopolitical issues are immense- and religion doesn't help.

Comment by Reg The Fronkey Farmer on January 29, 2012 at 10:04am

@ Avi Katz - I like the questions posed in your last lines.

Comment by Dogly on January 29, 2012 at 12:50pm

@Avi Katz You mention those people who buy into the story, but don't follow the rules.  I am more surprised at the ones who follow the rules but don't believe in god.  Those Jews who cuts parts off their baby boy's penis and don't even believe god told them to.  Tradition and culture can be as harmful as religion.

Comment by Avi Katz on January 30, 2012 at 2:17am

Interesting point Dogly but:

"Data from a national survey conducted from 1999 to 2002 found that the overall prevalence of male circumcision in the United States was 79%.[20] 91% of men born in the 1970s, and 83% of boys born in the 1980s were circumcised.[20] An earlier survey, conducted in 1992, found a circumcision prevalence of 77% in US-born men, born from 1932–1974, including 81% of non-Hispanic White men, 65% of Black men, and 54% of Hispanic men, vs. 42% of non U.S. born men who were circumcised"

These are overall figures for the U.S., not for Jews.

Comment by Barry Eckert on January 30, 2012 at 4:09am

According to the data that I just made up ヅ, Avi, 99% of Tennesseans believe in "Jesus" whereas 17% of them behave like Christ, e.g. demonstrate compassion, forgiveness, and non-judgmental attitudes.

We don't even wanna talk about circumcision. From what I've read, there may be a lower risk of HIV transmission among the circumcised. Even if that is true, I still am resentful about it.

Comment by Dogly on January 30, 2012 at 8:28am

@Avi Katz  It is true that the majority of boy infants in the U.S. are sexually mutilated by circumcision.  Their parents are duped by their doctors to have it done.  Non-religious Jews do it to their kids in the name of tradition, not misguided health scares.  Somehow, as an excuse for harming babies, tradition seems worse. 


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