Comment by James Cox on February 4, 2013 at 2:22am

by Gallup's Mirror

Wow, the first was very relaxing, in a numbing way, I did not pursue the second. 

It did partly remind me of my catholic school days. Sadly there is no scratch and snife for the sandle wood incense.

Does it help if I 'prostrate' myself a few times a day before my computer, seeking guidence and forgiveness from that great icon of the 21st century? I expect, trying to understand soil CO2 emissions, might atleast get me part way to wisdom.... 

Comment by Gallup's Mirror on February 4, 2013 at 2:31am

I did not pursue the second.

Pursue! You're missing out on the 'slain in the spirit' ushers! There's even a gossamer 'slain in the spirit' blanket!

Comment by James Cox on February 4, 2013 at 2:35am

Pursue!

So, since I did not see the emotacons, in a proper or existent syntax, I missed the direction of a 'must see'? OK, if I have to....lo)

We need a plam slap emotacon!

Comment by James Cox on February 4, 2013 at 2:43am

Ok, I watched the second, not as numbing as the first, I might add.

If I were a member of that fellowship, I think I would build a spring loaded 'slaining' pad/board, that would catch the more, 'full of the spirit', victims/believers just as they are slain. Sadly, on a good day, a few dozen back boards might be needed. I am sorry for the young kids that held the woman as she collapsed/slain, they could pull a muscle, or get a hernia.... 

Comment by Gallup's Mirror on February 4, 2013 at 2:57am

That blanket is too spartan. A sleeping bag is much more comfy. They could call it a 'slain in the spirit' bag.

Comment by SteveInCO on February 4, 2013 at 8:21am

Absolutely, Steve. Also some Christians prostrate independently of denomination. A search on YouTube produces examples of both. 

My personal favorite-- which I inconceivably left off my previous list-- is being "slain in the spirit"; a cross (no pun intended) between prostration and keeling over.

First video--well that's what I get for never having gone--in alien anthropologist mode--to the little orthodox church near here, which is something I want to do someday if only because it's a very different branch of Xianity than the run of the mill evangelicals and Roman Catholics I see all the time.  (Of course that church--unlike the one in the video--actually has pews in it so it might be a bit odd for an orthodox church.)

Even here though they don't stretch their arms out the way the OP video shows (of course that's not really prostration either, just a funky deep bow).  And to a catholic crucifix?

The other video is not ritual prostration in the sense alluded to in the OP's video, it's just a faith healee falling to the floor.

I think even if I had seen that first video before I saw this satire I'd still have wanted to call bullshit.  It just looks wrong.

Comment by Gallup's Mirror on February 4, 2013 at 9:13am

I think even if I had seen that first video before I saw this satire I'd still have wanted to call bullshit.  It just looks wrong.

Sure, why not. I didn't overlook the 'bullshit that's wrong' so much as question its presentation. If the presenter doesn't mean it, it's satire. But if he means it, it's religion. 

Comment by Fluffy McDeath on February 4, 2013 at 2:15pm

@SteveInCO I thought that Douglas Adams was brilliant and I think that's somewhere in the thinking behind this video but I also like the fact, often ignored, that randomness is a great way to explore an environment to map its constraints which is exactly what the water molecules do and is exactly what  life does.

Comment by SteveInCO on February 4, 2013 at 8:43pm

@Fluffy,

It's true, random motion either through physical space or the "space" (and mathematicians use the word "space" in exactly this way) of all possible organisms will result in all crevices (or ecological niches) being visited eventually, and with enough organisms and enough time, all niches will be filled pretty well.

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