Richard Dawkins exploding at bullshit in the Bible

AHHHHAGH! I just want to scream at the nonsense these theists try to use as logic. They do verbal gymnastics to try to make the bible fit their belief in spite contradiction and logic!
Poor Richard Dawkins doesn't stand a chance against idiots who can not think clearly. As Einstein once said, "Great minds have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds." Link is below for the Full Debate https://www....

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Comment by Reg The Fronkey Farmer on May 17, 2015 at 5:39pm

I am a regular viewer of this programme, The Big Questions, on BBC Sunday mornings. There are several other videos worth a look at on Youtube in a similar open debate format.

Comment by Simon Paynton on May 17, 2015 at 6:01pm

It's impossible to debate with someone who just talks bullshit.  That's why people like RD don't debate with creationists.  Have you seen Conservapedia?  All they seem to care about is atheism, homosexuality and evolution.  They sound like a bunch of very insecure macho bullies, like angry cops. 

I've got nothing against conservatives at all, since we need all voices at the table.  That's not a voice though, just a prolonged vomit in your face. 

Comment by Marianne on May 17, 2015 at 7:54pm

At 00:58: You can clearly see the cognitive dissonance is about go critical, but he cowardly goes for the belief-by-proxy cop-out. "Jesus believed it and I believe in Jesus" -sort of thing... Deep down he KNOWS it's too stupid to admit believing in, but well... he can't suddenly give up his hobby/day job on national television, now, can he?

Comment by Marianne on May 17, 2015 at 7:57pm

You can also see his body language is giving subtle cues that he is really cringing at the question (smiling in a passive slightly hurting way, tilting his head and casting his gaze to the ground, shoulders twisting), because he simply isn't able to give a reasonable answer, for obvious reasons.

Comment by Reg The Fronkey Farmer on May 17, 2015 at 8:02pm

On Prayer - ask a Christian if they really believe they can converse with the Creator of the Universe and then watch the look of cognitive dissonance on their faces. On the Afterlife - ask them how it feels to know that they will become immortal and you will see that most of them have never looked at it like that. I have even been told that my asking questions like created enough doubt that they eventually lost their faith. It can start a process of critical thinking.

Comment by Simon Paynton on May 18, 2015 at 2:07am

I think the two people in purple - the Jewish lady and the vicar person - handle themselves pretty well.  It's encouraging to hear her saying that their belief changes and grows over time.  Completely contrary to Islam where you can get hacked to death for suggesting the slightest change or question.  They still can't get over the cherry-picking question and the pre-existing moral standard question.  I disagree with RD that Jesus' Sermon on the Mount is cherry-picking - it's his central message that he repeats throughout most of the New Testament. 

If you ignore the logical inconsistencies, then I think that their approach, of using the Bible as a box of possible source material to be discussed and interpreted, is healthy.  But this presupposes that it's guided by compassion, which presupposes compassion itself.  There are respectable people in Russia who think it's OK to stone homosexuals because it says so in the Bible.  So the moral compass of this approach is pretty uncertain.  You need your head screwed on already if you're going to take lessons from the Bible. 

Comment by Kirk LeFou on May 18, 2015 at 9:17am

The thing that infuriates me the most is that these theists say the bible is the moral authority and should not be considered to be mere literature, but go on to say Christianity is a living and evolving religion that changes over time. It's idiotic. 

Why not read it for the fable it is? When the commentator was citing the bit about Sodom and Gomorrah and the pillar of salt, it sounded like parody or a spoof on comedy sketch show.  In our present day time on earth, have we ever seen a single God-created fairytale-like event that even comes close to the pillar of salt parable? Ever seen anyone part a sea? Ever seen a talking snake? Why is it that all those laughable parables only happened in ancient times? But the theists still believe it and take the bible as a moral authority. 

I was also infuriated when these theists scoffed and booed Dawkins for saying that the people who wrote the bible were ignorant.  Every writing in the bible proves that they were ignorant. They would rather believe outrageous and impossible parables than admit that other explanations may be needed.

So glad this board exists because otherwise I would go insane living as a mostly closeted atheist with nowhere to vent.  I'm closeted because I can't imaging living as an open atheist like Dawkins and being surrounded by people condemning me for not accepting this idiotic nonsense as truth.


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