Just a reminder what Muslim COLLEGE STUDENTS in Sweden act like when someones jokes about their religion

The attacks on Lars Vilks took place on May 11, 2010, after a video depicting the 'Prophet' Muhammad in various 'pornographic' scenes.

You can judge for yours...

Comment by Mo Trauen on January 7, 2011 at 12:46pm
Well, I have to say that the film seems to have been designed to insult and offend--what little of it I saw.  Considering Muslim disrespect for freedom of speech in other contexts, however, it is difficult to have any sympathy for them.  I suspect that this was a public showing with prior publicity and that the Muslims showed up expecting to see something insulting.  Consequently, it is difficult to have sympathy for that reason as well.  There should be a time and place for almost any type of speech--especially regarding religious or political matters.
Comment by Michael Sizer-Watt on January 7, 2011 at 12:51pm
Their reactions are sheer stupidity.  No doubt about it in my mind.  If we can criticize honor killings, then we can criticize this too.  Every living creature wishes to flourish.  As long as they're not harming anyone, they should do so.  To oppose this simple fact, and furthermore to go to the extent of becoming violent, is simply immoral.  There is no cultural element that obscures this.  They are human.  They can reason.  If they don't, they're immoral.
Comment by Boci Boci Tarka on January 7, 2011 at 12:52pm
Transport them to Saudi Arabia. Anyone who says allahu akbar. That's the place for them.
Comment by Andrew Bergstrom on January 7, 2011 at 1:03pm

The filmmaker knew what they were making would not be well received, and I think that the whole point of it was merely to gain attention and cause unrest. There is a line where Art is no longer really Art, and what little of the film that was included in this clearly shows that it was not what I could call Art. Freedom of speech is a double bladed sword, and usually cuts both ways. There is a time to address grievances, but I think one should be careful on how you express your opinions. Raising your voice in anger will rarely make your point count for more, and I see that both sides were to blame for this incident. The Muslim viewers showed up expecting a fight, and created the problem just as the filmmaker intended. Inciting a riot is never Art in my view, and these Muslims fell right into that trap. I have no sympathy for either side of this, and I wish that the venue had viewed the film prior to the screening and never promoted the showing of this film. I won't go into my views on porn at this time, other than there a time and place for such and this theater was definitely not the right place for such.

 

I refuse to tolerate ignorance, nor pay it any respect, because such has nothing to do with stupidity  or intelligence but because of the insensitivity. Most of the time I can respect other people's opinions and beliefs, unless they are being ignorant. The whole point of that gathering was to incite a riot, and for that the venue and filmmaker should be legally and financially responsible for the consequences. The fact that the police were already present before the film started is a clear indication that this film was only shown to cause problems. the Venue should be fined, and the filmmaker should be jailed for their hate crime. I see very little difference between Lars Vilks and the KKK for their actions.

Comment by Mo Trauen on January 7, 2011 at 1:03pm
Yeah, I especially "loved" the part where the Muslim guys yells "It's our country too".  Funny, he didn't look very Swedish.
Comment by Mo Trauen on January 7, 2011 at 1:29pm

Andrew Bergstrom wrote:  "I see very little difference between Lars Vilks and the KKK for their actions."

 

That's a bit of a stretch, Andrew.  Vilks didn't lynch anyone, blow up their churches, or cost them their jobs.  This was clearly meant to offend, but it was also clearly a response to the ridiculous objections of Muslims to Mohammed being depicted in mild cartoons or a Christian teacher allowing one of her Muslim students to name her teddy bear Mohammed.  Vilks was saying to them:  "Those things would not be offensive to any sane person.  Here, I will show you something offensive!"

Comment by Michael Sizer-Watt on January 7, 2011 at 2:22pm

OK, so let me get this straight Andrew.

 

What if I attended a presentation in which a film was shown, and in the film, there was a scene depicting a restaurant owner allowing japanese people to eat in the same room as north americans.  So I jump out of my seat and try to attack the filmmaker.  Is the filmmaker as much to blame for that too?  Or am I not just an intolerant idiot who deserve to be thrown out on my ass?

Comment by Mr Good Without God on January 7, 2011 at 3:51pm
This sickens me. I would have had them all removed if they were going to cause a disturbance in the classroom. Hell, I would have saw to the violent ones being punished... maybe even kicked out of the school. This is ridiculous.
Comment by Dustin on January 7, 2011 at 3:56pm

Who cares if Muslims are sensitive?  That is THEIR problem.  They can't continue to be allowed to act like little babies in the Western World.  

 

Freedom of Speech also means Freedom to offend.  Now we can't feel too sorry for the artist either, because he is doing this knowing full well is going to piss Muslims off.  But at the same time, it needs to be done.  If everyone came out and made fun of Islam, then the Muslims wouldn't be able to cry foul every time a rare instance occurred.  

 

More power to the artist, I say.  It's interesting to note as well the large police force ... I think this was expected to happen.  

Comment by Michael Sizer-Watt on January 7, 2011 at 3:58pm
But Keely, I don't see how it matters whether they were warned or not.  In my hypothetical scenario I wasn't warned that I would see Japanese customers being permitted to eat near north americans.  Does that absolve me for freaking out?  No.  Not one bit.

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