~ NO VULGAR LANGUAGE allowed. ~ Have you really considered the weight of the earth which is 5,972,000,000,000,000,000,000 tons orbit...

Views: 405

Comment by Matt on August 21, 2011 at 8:00pm

Is this what Santa Claus does with his free time in the off-season?

Comment by Frank Hamilton on August 21, 2011 at 8:35pm

The teleological argument has been debunked many times. It has never been proved. The proof of the existence of god is becoming more clear as we study the brain and find that the notion of a god exists in the mind of man rather than the reverse. He reverts to the Acquinas argument, if man can conceive of a god, than god must exist; the reversal of that argument is if man can conceive of a god that doesn't exist, then that must also logically follow. This gentleman doesn't really know many atheists by claiming that they are all ill-mannered. Dawkins is a gentleman because he is extremely knowledgeable and doesn't need to resort to diatribes as a result. This has nothing to do with his status as a professor, needless to say, there are plenty of academic professors who are eager to debate him. The "faith" professed here doesn't deserve any more respect than promotion of a political candidate, though atheists for the most part respect other human beings,not for their "faith or the unscientific observations about them being offered here. There are some evolutionists who believe in a god, for example Stephen Jay Gould or Francis Collins of the Genome project. There are Catholic clergy who support evolution and those of other denominations, so that this critique is incorrect.  There is no humility in an argument that uses ad hominem diatribes with a smile.The "ontological" argument that accepts the existence of a soul has also never been proven. There is a logical fallacy in this gentleman's argument.  You can't prove a negative, known in the annals of formal logic. The only existence of a god is in the brain of this man and his surety indicates that outside of his brain, there is no possibility for anything that doesn't follow his prescription, therefore, he is all knowing and everyone else must be wrong for their observations. This is a form of psychopathology and hallucinations without attending to  communication with the outside world.Basing his views on a supreme holy book is an extreme form of adhering to a dogma that makes him sound indoctrinated and brain washed.  Calling atheists dishonest is an ad hominem argument that has not been substantiated by any fact.  Calling them foolish is another form of castigating individuals and shows the lack of respect that he complains about toward himself.  What I don't understand is who he thinks he is going to convince with no reasonable argument to defend his position.  This is the way many religionists operate, they intone, they cajole, they repeat themselves, they assume a lofty position and when their argument is finished, they convince no one except those who are predisposed to agree with them. The meanness is finally brought to the fore, his punitive god he exhorts with a smirk as he consigns people that don't agree with him to punishment.  So much for Christian love.


Comment by Skycomet the Fallen Angel on August 21, 2011 at 9:10pm

Comment by Skycomet the Fallen Angel on August 21, 2011 at 9:19pm

For a moment... I thought he was going to kiss the camera at the end. lmao

Comment by Heather Spoonheim on August 22, 2011 at 8:05pm

You wouldn't believe the debate I have going with this guy on Youtube right now - ha ha ha ha ha!

Comment by Nathan Hevenstone on August 22, 2011 at 10:10pm

I've started my own debate with the guy. I've recommended that he get acquainted with Albert Einstein's Relativity. Did you know it was online?

Comment by Nathan Hevenstone on August 23, 2011 at 6:28pm

Okay... so have any of y'all read my debate with this fool?


He just sent me the following message. Yes it was a personal message, but I have to share it. It's... too good not to share:


I came over because I am done with the argument. I have presented the basic case of evidence God presents to everyone born into his world and into his universe and this you have poisoned in feeding on all these godless messages I see here on your channel with no balance at all for Creationism so you will drink from a poisoned well until you are destroyed spiritually IAW Romans 1:28/32. You were not objective nor scholarly in your rush to make yourself the best possible Atheist you could be when you should have balanced your diet. You are what you think. You have chosen in your rebellion against the authority of your Maker & your despising of believers to think godless and have succeeded in becoming godless which will prove to be your ruin forever.


Can y'all help me out? Where was I illogical? He refused to provide evidence for any of claims, then kept saying he had proved them to me. Which one of us was being unreasonable?

Comment by Heather Spoonheim on August 23, 2011 at 6:44pm

I've debated with him as well on Youtube and now taken it to e-mail.  I'm not sure which debate was yours, however, since I don't see your name listed in the comments - he debates a lot of people.

Comment by Nathan Hevenstone on August 23, 2011 at 6:52pm

Sorry Heather. I'm jimmyRRpage on YouTube.

Comment by Rick on August 23, 2011 at 7:17pm

Ha, I’m glad to see the TA community has taken the debate to this hack on Youtube. What a joke this guy is. His responses are laughable.


You need to be a member of Think Atheist to add comments!

Join Think Atheist

© 2018   Created by Rebel.   Powered by

Badges  |  Report an Issue  |  Terms of Service