Comment by ryan benner on May 7, 2010 at 4:15pm

Alright guys, this is a video from a friend of mine. Give it your all, his argument is pretty much ignorant. I'd respond to it, but I don't know how to properly respond to it.

Comment by Skycomet the Fallen Angel on May 7, 2010 at 10:23pm

Poor quality video... poor quality argument. the end.

Comment by Skycomet the Fallen Angel on May 7, 2010 at 10:31pm

Just how many times do I have to go through this... JUST CAUSE YOU CAN'T PROVE SOMETHING DOESN'T MEAN IT'S AN OPINON!!! Okay... human beings are mentally programmed to "know" right and wrong. God and the Devil have nothing to do with it. Those who do evil things are usually mentally abnormal in some negative way. Their behavior shows that they are maladaptive. Many have mental illnesses, personality disorders, or brain damage. So... morality is not an opinion... it is a NORMAL state. Those who lack it are in an ABNORMAL state.

Comment by Kristen Powell on May 7, 2010 at 11:24pm

Um, wow, I'm sorry that's a friend of yours. I suggest you have him watch Sam Harris's talks on how science can show what morals are. The videos are on this site. Beating a puppy is wrong because it harms a living being for absolutely no reason. Raping children is wrong because they CANNOT consent and are not in control of the situations. And does this guy not realize that we Americans don't exactly leave everyone else alone?

Good luck with all that; with his vocabulary level I doubt he'll gain much insight from Sam Harris's videos. I just know I never want to live in any country THIS guy runs--if he can't understand that taking a life does the murderer no great benefit--it doesn't feel good to murder, unless you're a sociopath, and they belong in mental hospitals FOREVER. Maybe like this guy does.

Comment by Christopher McGuire on May 8, 2010 at 6:15am

Kristen, Sociopaths don't 'feel good' about murder, they don't have much (if any) feelings neither positive or negative...
And as for my stance on Atheist's morals, I think my comments from another post sum it up well:
http://www.thinkatheist.com/forum/topics/what-is-the-meaning-of-lif...

"As for your question on morals, atheists are more moral and upstanding citizens, on average, than you 'God-loving theists.' This is NOT debatable, it is PROVEN FACT. Studies have been done by people better qualified (read: more non-biased) than us to prove this. Of course, these facts are published in BOOKS and SCIENTIFIC, PEER-REVIEWED JOURNALS (Yes, I am talking about all those stupid literary works that don't fit in with your 'Word of God;' those ones your pastor hopes you'll never read...). Your God apparently gave your kind religion INSTEAD OF morality when he was Mr. Potatohead-ing your asses together in heaven (Gregor Mendel was a scientist, so you obviously can't trust his ideas on dominant and recessive genes, as it's too close to evolution, and his work wasn't published in the bible). We don't even play by all your damned commandments, and yet we're doing a better job at following the important ones than you theists are. Oh, and don't try the 'Hitler was an atheist' argument, because he was born, raised, and died a practicing theist (And by my count, he played your God's little genocide game even better than GOD HIMSELF DID). Saying that without God there are no morals is just narrow-minded and insulting to those who have minds evolved enough to harbor this crazy thing called 'rationality.'"
Try not to be such an asshole, though... If you still prefer his friendship...

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