Girl Kills Herself To See Her Daddy Again

"Girl, 12, hangs herself and leaves a note for her mother saying she wanted to see her dead father again because she 'missed him so much'"* Cenk Uygur and An...

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Comment by Rocky john on November 6, 2013 at 7:58pm

The danger of your child truly  believing the bullshit religious parents feed them.

Comment by Kairan Nierde on November 6, 2013 at 9:14pm

soooooo so sad. 

Comment by Unseen on November 6, 2013 at 9:47pm

I dont think that children really understand the finality of death.

They do at about age 8-10, which I think is the age when most kids actually absorb the concept. I don't remember the day when, as a child really grasped mortality. I do, however, remember when my daughter asked something like "do kitty cats die?" and I said "Everything dies. Cats, dogs, plants, birds, and people. Everything that lives dies someday." She was silent and then we had a few episodes of more questions and being extra-quiet and maybe a few days of difficulty getting to sleep, but that passed. 

But when people try to excuse the Columbine shooters, for example, by saying that teens don't really understand death, that's silly. Of course they do. They know if they kill someone there will be no more birthdays, no more Thanksgiving dinners, no graduation. It's just stupid to say that teens don't understand the finality of death.

Comment by kris feenstra on November 7, 2013 at 4:10pm

They do at about age 8-10, which I think is the age when most kids actually absorb the concept. 

That was roughly the age for me. It was before my parents separated, which was at the end of grade three, so I likely would have been eight at time. I recall my general sensation and thoughts at the time. I didn't believe in Heaven or an afterlife though I knew about Heaven and Valhalla for certain. The idea that my parents would someday leave me, and likely my older brother too, did bother me, but there would be nothing to do about it save for to live on. I actually accepted it better then than I probably do now in some ways, and I could definitely appreciate the finite nature of my existence. I even tried to calculate the number of minutes I would likely have left to me with an average projected lifespan.

I've always had mixed feelings of the deep condemnation against suicide in certain religious sects. It's not just protective caution against the act, but also the idea that it's a ticket to Hell by some views. On one hand, people will still commit suicide regardless, and it must be torture on the survivors to think their loved one is facing eternal damnation, or even if they don't believe that, to know that some of their peers do. On the other hand, if one genuinely believes in an afterlife right down to their core, without consequence for the act, suicide seems like a rational option.

Comment by Diane on November 7, 2013 at 10:41pm

My daughters lost their father when they were 14 and 16, and the older one, who already had serious health issues, almost succeeded in killing herself.  She took a lethal dose of pills when, after asking for a sign from her father, she heard that damn Sarah McLachlan song In the Arms of an Angel.

And she's an atheist!  She felt she couldn't face the world without him.  Of course it's not that simple but that's the gist of it.  He was a Christian, and she knew he thought he would see her again.  It was such a brutally painful absence I think she went off a bit into the fantasy she knew he had.

I can't watch the video about this young girl because it's too close to home.  We would have lost my daughter if we had not found her in time.  I wish this girl could have been saved too.  My daughter made it through and has 4 more weeks to go and she will have finished a semester of nursing school. 

Ironically, saying, "There but for the grace of God, go I" seems to make sense here.  I can't say that because I don't believe in a god or any grace it might have, but I am grateful nonetheless.  My daughter's father's religious beliefs and practices partially caused my daughter's problems in the first place.

Comment by bongani muthwa on November 8, 2013 at 6:21am

Shit that bronze-age mentality brings to our children.I hate all gods and their stupid upholders!


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