Is America really the home of the brave? Or is it the home of cowardly little bitches who can't get over something that happened a decade ago? Anyone who has...

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Comment by Robert Karp on September 12, 2011 at 11:20am

My bad, thanks Becca.

Comment by Robert Karp on September 12, 2011 at 11:36am

Ok, so I should've watched it and now that I have....I TOTALLY AGREE. Yes this guy is annoying, so is Penn Jillette but his anger is justified. I agree. Wholeheartedly.


If we are in a situation where we cannot pay our own teachers but can "lose" 360 million dollars to the Taliban, then something is not working. Our priorities have gone down the poop-shoot.


Children die every day in our inner cities from violence. Where are the memorials for them? Where is the news media. He's right, it just doesn't sell like 9/11 does.

Comment by Jacob LeMaster on September 12, 2011 at 12:57pm

I find it amusing how cherry picked this video is..You have to get passed the shtick and listen to the message as a whole.. The more I listen to this video the more I agree with it..


And technically I can say all I want about how ranting doesn't work but I would be wrong... Ridicule puts people off balance... It makes them question.. and makes them do exactly what we want them to do... It pisses them off bad enough to want to try and prove us wrong in areas where they really cant.. But like Churchill said.. Criticism may not be agreeable, but it is necessary. It fulfills the same function as pain in the human body. It calls attention to an unhealthy state of things. And this guy is like a terribly painful itch those bastards just cant scratch..


Comment by Arcus on September 12, 2011 at 1:29pm

Fuck December 7! Get over it already!

Comment by Nate on September 12, 2011 at 2:42pm

@Sassan K, kinda off topic but my friend went on vacation in Saudi Arabia for 3 weeks a couple months back and loved it, id imagine it wouldn't have been as pleasant if my friend were a women though

Comment by Chibuzor Obiora on September 12, 2011 at 4:44pm

ask yourself , if you were hurt would you let me kill in your name. The truth is that 3000 'American' lives are supposed to be worth more than any body else from the rest of the world. it desensitizes us so that we think 3000 thousand offsets more than a million who have been killed since in the name of 9-11! we have to stand up and say "Enough is a god-dammed Nough"

Comment by Sassan K. on September 12, 2011 at 7:23pm

@Gerald Martinez: I thank you and salute you for your service and sacrifice in protecting our homeland and providing an opportunity for a more free world. Ignore these haters - [* moderator] their opinions mean nothing. It is just sad that there are a group of [* moderator] anti-west/anti-democracy atheists who "claim" they care about humanity when in reality, they would allow dictators, tyrants, and terrorists to remain in power and to continue to oppress, terrorize, and cause havoc to their own people and threaten international security and stability.


[moderator note: personal insults removed as they are a violation of the forum policy; the content of the message has not been other wise affected.]

Comment by Sassan K. on September 12, 2011 at 7:37pm

It is really disheartening that it seems like a portion of atheists are the type who claim they value rationality and reason - but in reality, are often times more irrational than religious people themselves. We were attacked on 9/11 - in an unprovoked attack from an enemy who wants to bring down humanity. After 9/11 - terrorist attacks followed in countries ranging from India, Spain, England, and countless of other nations for the simple reason for being westerners and non-Muslims (and in the case of India, for being polytheists since polytheists are the worst form of "creature" and they all deserve to die as accorded by the quran). For once - look at yourselves in the mirror and just think in your puny heads; not only was America attacked on 9/11 but the entire civilized world was attacked. When we were attacked, civilization was attacked. Now, we can argue the merits of the Iraq war and deserving so - but protecting our homeland and going after the terrorists and getting rid of the Taliban was not only necessary since the Taliban was harboring Bin Laden and Al Qaeda - but in addition, it was an imperative of the world community in getting rid of the most brutal oppressors on the face of this Earth. The fact that thousands of our troops have sacrificed their lives - is an honor, not something to smug at. We learned our lesson from leaving Afghanistan after the Soviet war - and we have not made that same mistake again. The fact remains - that 9/11 changed the world and changed humanity - and we should be proud of our ideals and values in supporting freedom and democratic change - war is never perfect and mistakes surely happen - but the world is a better and safer place today than it was 10-years ago.

Comment by Jacob LeMaster on September 12, 2011 at 8:31pm

Gerald Martinez Quite a bit of what you said there was said to me when I mentioned I was happy to have a M.A.S.H. group in Fort Campbell and that the comment there are no atheists in foxholes was complete bullshit..


@ Sassan can you have a non emotional "America Fuck Yeah!" response? The time has come to an end for us to think locally and we need to think globally and in the sense of global reformation patriotism becomes an archaic meaningless term.. As well if you think we are better off now than we were 10 years ago you are a daffy bastard sorry.. Please pull the statue of liberty out of your ass and get a clue..

Comment by Kim on September 12, 2011 at 9:15pm

@ Sassan  Just because I am trying to make a point that "they" are "we" doesn't mean that I am "anti-west" or "anti-democracy".  Hell, I'm not even "anti-war" or "anti-9/11 memorial".  I do not see the 9/11 attacks as an attack just on Americans.  I do not see the memorial as a horrible thing.  However, I do hear many people talk about Muslims as if they are all terrorists.  In fact, I overheard a co-worker referring to them as having "diapers on their heads because their heads are full of shit".  How stupid, especially considering how he followed that up with "the man who died the worst death ever was the only person who didn't deserve it".   This is the undereducated, NATIONALISTIC view many Americans share.  I love my country and the values that it ONCE stood for:  life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness (or property, whatever).  I do not, however, love these new values that America has grown to uphold:  God, country, and capitalism.  I look at the people we're over there fighting.  Who is over there dying?  Hmmmm?  I'll give you a hint:  "When the rich wage war, it's the poor that die."  Eighty percent are civilians.  Can you justify killing 8 innocent people just to capture 2 "bad guys"?  But then again, I am not trying to condone or condemn this war or any other war.  I'm saying this is how ALL wars are.  So, if you go to war, you had better be sure it's for the good of mankind because 80% of the casualties are sure to be INNOCENT PEOPLE. 


@ Gerald  I'm not saying we should forget.  We shouldn't.  We should support our troops and appreciate our freedom.  But we must put it all into perspective lest we over here forget that those people across the sea are HUMAN BEINGS.  We here tend to think of them as non-person entities or insurgents because we're not there to see their lives and interactions, as I'm sure they tend to forget we are human as well.  I love American soldiers.  I don't see American soldiers as just men with guns.


@ Bryan  What does Saudi Arabia have to do with the 9/11 memorial, which I said nothing negative about to beginning with?  That's almost like me saying that women wearing big, expensive diamonds need to acknowledge the bloodshed that occurs during the mining of diamonds in some parts of the world, then you replying with, "You need to go live in Angola."  WTF?


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