Well, maybe not "crashing" per se... but you'll get our gist.

At a local faith-healing event, David demonstrates how the "miracle" performed ACTUALLY works and debates with the pastor amid his congregation.

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Comment by kris feenstra on September 24, 2012 at 2:51pm

Glad to hear your back pain got all cleared up, but casting away God and, even worse, using the metric system -- I have to ask: why d' y'all hate America so much?

I think that was handled fairly well.  The social dynamic where you have charlatans playing on people's hopes and worries is always a difficult scenario.  If you tell someone that they are being duped, they're probably going to get defensive -- no one wants to look the fool.  If you call the fraudulent healer's actions out as the monstrosities they are, you're going to look like the bad guy, not them.  If you say nothing, a potentially harmful practice continues.  Pain in the ass really (but fortunately I have a homeopathic remedy for that). 

Comment by James Cox on September 25, 2012 at 12:22am

As part of my ongoing attempt to experience the 'fringe' and to understand my own function just a little better, I have taken in a few of these experiences.

Recently, my wife suggested that I taken in an RT therapy series with a local physical therapist/newage medium/energy engineer. Please let me explain in her own words, roughly: "I can use what I have learned from an enlightened being, named 'George', to control and manipulate the energy fields in the human body, to heal. You are so out of balance, that it will take many 2 hr visits of meditation/intervention to correct all the injuries that you have suffered over your life, and return you back to a healthly balance. After each session, drink lots of water!'

This almost sounds like my last estimate to fix the breaks on my truck! 

So far I have three visits under my belt, during which, I seem to have the most excrusiatingly bouts of muscle cramping, and vivid visualizations of soft lights behind mostly closed eyes, following which a period of limping out her front door, and then a temporary funny return of my sarcastic sense of humor. In a strange twist, I seem to feel better temporarily, looking a gift horse in the mouth might be premature. I expect just laying quietly on a soft bed with white noise in the background, and the soft bell tone of her cell phone going off, could be the relaxation that I need. Being an alpha type, could be the death of me.

What I do find wonderful about the whole experience is that she is charging nothing for the service. I asked about this early on, with her response, 'It is as good for me as you, glad to be of help.' A $40/hr massage is always waiting at arms lenght,,,;p).

Oh well. Sadly, she has not attempted to lenghten one leg or another....     

Comment by Sagacious Hawk on September 25, 2012 at 6:28am

From 1:30 to 2:00 minutes, that dude's voice growing louder with the music is pretty creepy. Makes me wonder how I never realized just how crazy it all sounds!

Comment by James Cox on September 25, 2012 at 12:10pm

So how we get people to not think that capitalism can solve all our ills?

Or that 'more cow bell', it the hight of humor?

Comment by Dale Headley on September 25, 2012 at 7:47pm

Don’t be too quick to judge these poor, deluded folks without taking a good look at yourself.

My father thought himself to be as healthy as a horse.  When the pain started in his legs, he refused to see a qualified M.D.  Instead he went to a subluxationist chiropractor.  Over the next two years, he paid the faux doctor to treat his condition.  And, even though his family and friends could see he was getting worse, he never lost FAITH in his healer.  He believed in the efficacy of his treatment right up until the day he died, at age 52.  An autopsy showed he died due to complications of clogged arteries obstructing the flow of blood to his legs.  In a very real sense, FAITH HEALING killed my father.

If my father had consulted a REAL doctor, he might have discovered in time that the diet of fatty meat and whole milk that he routinely consumed in huge quantities was what was afflicting his legs and he could have been saved.   His surgeon showed me an excised section of where his aorta branched into his sciatic arteries.  It looked exactly like a stuffed sausage.  It’s a wonder ANY blood at all reached his legs.

The number of Americans who fall for chiropractic (and acupuncture, gingko biloba, glucosamine, chondroiton, magnets, homeopathy,...ad infinitum) dwarfs the number of those who succumb to the religious variety of faith healers; but they are no less deluded.  And no more helped.  It is almost a certaintly that nearly every person who reads this will swear that THEIR nostrum that THEY got from THEIR drug counter is helping THEM, even if NO scientific studies say so.  This is the definition of “FAITH HEALING.”

If you are inclined to take an opposing view because you know YOUR pill (or magic water, or magnet, or dousing rod, or acupuncture needle, or other placebo) is helping you, please don't give me anecdotal "evidence."  Quote me the studies.  Otherwise, you are relying solely on FAITH, every bit as much as those sad, foolish souls in the video.

Comment by UnTarded on September 25, 2012 at 9:07pm

A joke from the Reason Rally:

Q) What do you call Alternative Medicine that works?

A) Medicine.

Comment by Logicallunatic on September 26, 2012 at 8:32am

Did you hear about the guy who committed suicide on homeopathic pills? He took an under-dose. 

Comment by James Cox on September 26, 2012 at 12:03pm

The physical therapist as mentioned above has promoted numerous other 'therapies' over the time my wife has known hear. About two years ago, before I became aware of the details, she was promoting 'silver water' and a more energetic energy therapy.

For the silver water, they were using a rather basic electrolytic cell to place small amounts of silver ions into solution. Silver does seem to have some antibiotic properties, but via a Wikipedia search, it was clear that there is a non-trivial toxicity. My wife used the water for a while, but stopped after I gave her a 12 page file of toxicity data, and background information.

For the more energetic energy therapy. There is a small town North of us, where there is a non-profit newage massage and energy therapy operation/fellowship. There you can get your feet electolysed to 'remove toxins', be wired up to be exposed to high frequency current, and sit in a room surrounded by functioning discharge tubes at maybe 20000 volts.

The discharge tubes are filled with gases that emit light at different freqencies at very high voltages. Some of the tubes I recognized as standard reference tubes. The room is rather cool actually, and I can understand why someone would like to experience it, its very much like a science fiction set, or a physics lab. I was concerned about possible short wave UV and xray exposure.

I did walk through their shop and noticed what looked like old xray tubes, non-functional at that time. 

It is clear that some people are at their wits end for relief, but others seem to be just plain fools when it comes to their health and the sciences.

Comment by archaeopteryx on September 26, 2012 at 3:44pm

That dude had WAY more patience, tact and diplomacy than I could ever muster!

Comment by Ed on September 28, 2012 at 7:32am

@ Dale

Perhaps one reason the glucosamine and chondroitin products sale as well as they do is that the local family doctors seem to believe in them strongly enough to suggest their use by their patients. My mom has been trying to get me to use the stuff for my joint pain for a couple years. I'm still a skeptic though. I always wonder if the pharmaceutical industry isn't giving kickbacks to doctors and other medical professionals for pushing their vast plethora of products. 

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