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Comment by John G. on May 10, 2011 at 3:06pm

Man, I shed a tear everytime I see or (moreso) hear Carl Sagan. He is, for me, about as close to an atheist prophet as you can get (Though he didn't seem to understand the difference between agnostic and atheist; hey we're all flawed).


He had such a power of science and could portray it in almost a poetic form. The pale blue dot speech should be taught in science AND english classrooms.

Comment by Nataniel T. on May 10, 2011 at 4:51pm
See, unlike religion, science has actually accomplished something to help humanity advance in the past couple of millennia. And yes science does conflict with religion quite a lot. You can't cherry pick your way out of it, radicals.
Comment by Scarlette Blues on May 10, 2011 at 5:02pm
Jesus Camp is on Netflix. I watched it a few months ago and I was horrified. This is purely child abuse
Comment by Shamari on May 10, 2011 at 6:24pm
Simply horrifying. The Jesus Camp last part gave me the shivers.
Comment by Stanley Brooks on May 10, 2011 at 10:14pm
The problem is that these people are protected by our governments, and often our tax dollars to teach this garbage.  It is so amazing to contrast the footage of Carl Sagan, his curiosity, kindness and gentleness encouraging and truly leading the children, to the brainwashing, indoctrination and sickness, not to mention the outright boldface lies, of the jaybuz camp.  As many have said, it is child abuse.
Comment by Nevada Smith on May 11, 2011 at 3:52am
That movie had me on the verge of tears the whole time.  It is incredibly sad what some people will do to poison the next generation.  Despicable.
Comment by Stella on May 11, 2011 at 2:35pm

Okay so last night I asked my STAUNCH Christian friend what she thought of Jesus Camp, and how she felt watching these kids being fed hatred instead of curiosity and love. She says... *drumroll*, "this world is indeed evil. There is a need for us to teach them what is right and wrong. We Christians are concerned with not only this lifetime but all of eternity. Besides that, you can look at it this way - Jesus Camp doesn't indoctrinate hatred and fear into these kids, it's more like having a radical way of thought about the world."

Of course this then led to her saying she will pray for me and said I "act too smart for (my) own good" and that I should pray with her to "let my faith be stronger than all these doubts combined." It's like talking to a brick wall. Sigh.

Comment by Nevada Smith on May 12, 2011 at 2:05am
That sounds like talking to most Christians.  I only know one who is truly secure enough in her beliefs that she does not feel the need to force them on anyone else.  If more were like her, I would not have such a problem with them.
Comment by John G. on May 12, 2011 at 4:17am


You need to realise that Christians don't consider what they're doing wrong. The don't consider it "brainwashing" because that would only apply to lies, what they're doing is teaching.


They also feel they're doing it to save these kids from sin. As far as their concerned, it's as holy as feeding a starving child or curing cancer.

Comment by Chris H on May 12, 2011 at 12:23pm
What on earth can we do to counter this crap without letting them pull us down to their level?


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