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The Dilemma: Commit troops to fighting ISIS or let them take over the entire Muslim world

Started this discussion. Last reply by Pope Beanie 7 hours ago. 23 Replies

It is a false dilemma in some ways because there ARE other alternatives, such as a propaganda war, but on the face of it a military response seems the most likely alternative to just throwing in the…Continue

Tags: ISIS

The Problem of Omniscience

Started this discussion. Last reply by Unseen 6 hours ago. 64 Replies

I I were God, I'd know the entire history of the universe forever, future as well as past, I'd also know in advance every one of my own acts.Oh, but wait, there's a dilemma there, isn't there?Either…Continue

Tags: will, free, omniscience, god

How to make knife crime skyrocket. It's easier than you think.

Started this discussion. Last reply by Unseen Jun 26. 29 Replies

People who want a gun control "success" to point to often refer to the UK. And there are fewer gun deaths in the UK. But, you know what? There are now an unsettling number of knife incidents there!…Continue

Tags: crime, guns, knives

Gadzooks! We may be hardwired to believe in a creator!!!

Started this discussion. Last reply by Tom Margolis Jun 24. 7 Replies

Of course, theists think that this (if true) proves something. To me, it just explains why there are so few atheists: it's difficult to get past a belief planted in us by our DNA.…Continue

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Unseen replied to Unseen's discussion 'The Problem of Omniscience'
"Man was created in God's image except... when it causes problems."
6 hours ago
Unseen replied to Julie W's discussion 'Obama's pulpit: Should elected officials be preaching theology?'
"I was glad to see our black President being a black man. I didn't even cringe when he sang Amazing Grace."
6 hours ago
Pope Beanie replied to Unseen's discussion 'The Dilemma: Commit troops to fighting ISIS or let them take over the entire Muslim world'
"I think it's unlikely too, but not out of the question. As long as ISIS can sell oil (which means black market connections), they'll be able to buy expensive stuff."
7 hours ago
Arcus replied to Unseen's discussion 'The Dilemma: Commit troops to fighting ISIS or let them take over the entire Muslim world'
"Rather unlikely. NK has provided technical assistance, but can't ship any materials as IS does not control a port. If they were, and now we are pretty far into the realm of unlikelihood, an NK ship headed towards an IS port would be conspicuous…"
8 hours ago
zoolady replied to Unseen's discussion 'The Dilemma: Commit troops to fighting ISIS or let them take over the entire Muslim world'
"After a LOT of thought, my opinion is that the Muslim world has to deal with ISIS.  We in the ''west'' can't go in and begin blasting other Muslims without creating more resentment and troubles around the world. "
8 hours ago
Pope Beanie replied to Unseen's discussion 'The Dilemma: Commit troops to fighting ISIS or let them take over the entire Muslim world'
"North Korea could help, given some cash."
9 hours ago
Davis Goodman replied to Unseen's discussion 'The Dilemma: Commit troops to fighting ISIS or let them take over the entire Muslim world'
"I don't know Rocky...153rd time is a charm!"
9 hours ago
Rocky john replied to Unseen's discussion 'The Dilemma: Commit troops to fighting ISIS or let them take over the entire Muslim world'
"It would be a great idea to start a real war over there again ,after all every other time that we have become involved militarily over there things have only gone swimmingly......"
9 hours ago
Davis Goodman replied to Unseen's discussion 'The Dilemma: Commit troops to fighting ISIS or let them take over the entire Muslim world'
"Is so."
11 hours ago
FormerlyBornAgain replied to Unseen's discussion 'The impossibility of AI'
"Really? This is hilarious. It fooled somebody? It sounds like HAL trying to be hip, or the subtitles in "Airplane" when Barbara Billingsley speaks "jive.""
12 hours ago
Dale Headley replied to Unseen's discussion 'The Problem of Omniscience'
"There is also the concomitant problem of the omnipotence/omnibenevolence paradox - that God is simultaneously all powerful and all good.  Christians believe that all goodness and morality flows from God, therefore they must believe He always…"
13 hours ago
Arcus replied to Unseen's discussion 'The Dilemma: Commit troops to fighting ISIS or let them take over the entire Muslim world'
"I think Israel has shown it can defend herself, and kinda the point of nuclear weapons is to fire them if you are about to be overrun.  For the second part, I already wrote "imposing strict border controls (..) and tightening of…"
15 hours ago
Belle Rose replied to Unseen's discussion 'Here's an erotic photo I took nearly 20 years ago' in the group Everything Sex - NSFW
"I have to hand it to you Unseen...as I was considering using licensed purchased photos for my character(s)....(which is a very complex web in intricacies) and sifting through the possibilities, I was truly hard-pressed to find any work that compared…"
15 hours ago
Unseen replied to Unseen's discussion 'The Dilemma: Commit troops to fighting ISIS or let them take over the entire Muslim world'
"establish a nuclear program, weaponize it, miniaturize the warhead, and research rocketry to a sufficient level to deliver it. If they overran Israel, which is certainly among their intentions, everybody knows that Israel possess nuclear…"
15 hours ago
Unseen replied to Unseen's discussion 'What are the odds of EU survival?'
"The euro was a mistake since the beginning. It was an experiment to bring the European countries together, but nothing has divided Europe as much as the euro...If Greece leaves, I think Greece will actually do better. There will be a period of…"
15 hours ago
Arcus replied to Unseen's discussion 'The Dilemma: Commit troops to fighting ISIS or let them take over the entire Muslim world'
"While IS procuring nuclear weapons is a nightmare, they are still only around 25k ferocious warriors. I hardly believe they will be able to soon, or at any point, establish a nuclear program, weaponize it, miniaturize the warhead, and research…"
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MA in Philosophy. I call myself an atheistic agnostic. In other words, I'm atheist until someone proves I'm wrong.
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Strangely, you don't include the most obvious answer: God doesn't appear to exist, even as a possibility.
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Scientists are now admitting that nuclear power is greener than other alternatives

Posted on January 8, 2015 at 12:29pm 36 Comments

The full read from which the following quote is taken is here.

Nuclear power is one of the least damaging sources of energy for the environment, and the green movement must accept its expansion if the world is to…

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A great number of paradoxes, starting with Scroedinger's cat

Posted on April 18, 2014 at 8:00pm 1 Comment

I'm sorry, but I had to stop listening to this bit at about the fourth paradox due to being out of breath from laughing. How long can you last?

Famous last words. No...really!

Posted on February 6, 2014 at 6:30pm 2 Comments

I found a website where Texas lists every capital execution from 1982 on. One of the more interesting things about it is that it includes any last statements the prisoners made. Interesting reading. Lots of "foxhole converts" among them, I note.

OBAMACARE Is Better Than You Think

Posted on September 24, 2013 at 11:40am 1 Comment

In just one week the main part of Obamacare will begin to kick in. This is the state level exchanges that will allow the uninsured to be covered. Beginning on October 1, people will be able to sign up to get insurance in their state regardless of their health.

Most people signing up on the exchanges will qualify for subsidies based on their income and family size. This means that the cost of insurance will be less than the advertised price.

This is good…

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At 3:26pm on December 14, 2014, Virgil said…

You and I got off to a bad start and I almost gave up on AT cuz of it.  I'm glad I didn't.  Amazing how much you and I agree on besides views on how jobs are created, the meaning of wealth and what produces it. All of that I believe about those things are from my personal experience in the past 5 years since becoming a civilian. I believe in them more today than ever before but all that is teeny minor crap compared to my core convictions.  The main reason I argued with you about that was the wrong reason to to argue.  I was offended on a personal level by things you said and I gave into that & put my anger ahead of reason. 

Interrogation.  Please point out any errors in you see in my reasoning.... (why ask, you'll do it even if I don't ask hahahaha!)

my last tour 2009 in Afgh I was a E4, a corporal, just one tiny small guy the big picture. When I heard this report was coming out I thought "oh shit!  This is going to get nasty!"  But wait... "nasty" is a relative term. As a war vet, my idea of nasty in regards to what could have been in that report  is waaaaaaaaay different from Joe Civilian's definition of nasty.  In fact my definition of nasty info on EIT would be impossible for him to wrap his head around and not break out in a chicken little dance. 

There's no damned way Feinstein & the others with that report know less about EIT than I do unless the CIA and armed forces have been totally lying to them.  That's just not possible. 

I've read all I can find for details, watched TV for the hot talking points and I have come to the conclusion that whole report just about has to be a psyop to cover ALLLLLLLLL the shit guys like me know and all the shit guys like me don't know.  For me there hasn't been ONE DETAIL in that report that was newsy or nasty.  I really feel what's going on is a well planned magician's trick that starts  off with him saying, "watch me cut off my right hand" to distract everyone IN THE WORLD while they sneak a 60 ton plaid elephant across the stage. 

This isn't a conspiracy theory about some secret plot from the Obama white house.  This is a theory about possibly pulling off a great Intel move to benefit the very people and programs that it's supposed to be making the focus of world wide outrage. 

But wait.  There's more.

There were things in that report that were totally ridiculous and almost funny when you thin about them.  ONLY  dummasses would fall for some of the shit AND the media and none of the "experts" have even tried to point the silly shit out. 

Think. The report says next to no vital intel has been obtained through EIT.  It says most of the intel obtained is lies told under torture.  I don't recall ONE time in my whole 22 months in Afgh when we were told, "get your guns and let's go find some bad guys to shoot." Every time we did anything se went out to specific places looking at specific times, to look for specific people, specific things and act like we were just dumb gyrines who didn't know what we were looking for. One time we did a four hour search on a small 6 house village before "noticing" the exact item we'd been shown satellite images of sitting right in our way the whole time.   Sooooo where did that intel come from?  The pentagon must be using psychics and have consult fortune tellers.  ...........  That's just one example.  One time we were rushed out to set up a  fake road check, told what car to look for, who would be in it and make sure its 4 tires were blown out 1 km before the road block so the occupants would have to get out and walk after all traffic on the road was stopped to prevent them from hitching rides.  When we go the guys back to base there were interesting guys there. After a staged accidental explosion the 3

At 9:06pm on September 19, 2014, Davis Goodman said…

Can't believe we weren't official friends here all this time!!!!

At 3:34am on September 2, 2014, Demetrius Alcala said…

You stole CBS

At 7:51am on August 10, 2014, Brandon Bissell said…

Yeah thanks. I was hoping to talk to you about something so I'll send a message soon.

At 10:30pm on March 25, 2014, Justin said…

ah yes Im new to it, thank u

At 2:58am on March 25, 2014, EMil Wentzel said…

Thanks :)

I'm still feeling my way around, glad to see so many wonderful positive and active voices here :)

At 11:56am on February 7, 2014, Reg The Fronkey Farmer said…

Thanks for the add Unseen. We took long enough lol...

At 2:46pm on August 30, 2013, Beth said…

Nice to meet you too!

At 3:45pm on May 22, 2013, Asura said…

Yeah i'am new here, seems like an amazing place :D

Thank you!

At 4:25am on March 3, 2013, Gregg R Thomas said…

You Tyrant You.  LOL

Oh well at least we now have Richard Bohn, I wonder how long he will last. :D

 
 
 

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