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This topic again

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When I was young, my dad assured me that "technology always creates more jobs than it costs," but this may not be the case. In fact, I'm becoming more and more certain it's not. One thing I'm sure of…Continue

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Fashion meet philosophy

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Elsewhere, I posted a philosopher's response to this article about a…Continue

Scary Trump speech to the NRA after its endorsement

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Even though I'm largely against gun control (for some of the reasons Trump addresses in his speech), he is a scary guy. As I listened to this speech, I realized that he has a lot of appeal to certain…Continue

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"There's never time to do it right but there's always time to do it over.""Everyone must believe something. I believe I'll have another beer."Yours?Continue

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Stephen Nowlin replied to Unseen's discussion 'Sam Harris on the Illusion of Free Will'
"1. The free-will question is interesting I guess -- but to me, not particularly so. I'm content to observe that we can only act or think in ways permitted by the laws of the universe, but within those laws people subject to identical influences…"
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Pope Beanie replied to Unseen's discussion 'Sam Harris on the Illusion of Free Will'
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Unseen replied to Unseen's discussion 'This topic again'
"If giving people with jobs a basic living wage eliminates jobs, then we need to figure out what to do about the people who've been displaced. We can't have a vast unemployed and/or poverty struck underclass. Look at India and the hole it…"
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Unseen replied to Unseen's discussion 'Sam Harris on the Illusion of Free Will'
"Clearly, it interests thinking people religious or not."
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matt.clerke replied to Unseen's discussion 'This topic again'
"Precisely the reason we shouldn't double down on that failed economic policy."
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matt.clerke replied to Unseen's discussion 'This topic again'
"Indeed... I know it sounds like a republican cliche by now but: having a minimum wage cuts off the lowest rungs on the economical ladder. It sounds stupid to most people because most people managed to find employment... they were able to either get…"
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Pope Beanie replied to Unseen's discussion 'Sam Harris on the Illusion of Free Will'
"I've changed my ways, brother. It's only you who insists on turning a meaningful religious question into a meaningful atheist question. As it makes no sense to try to prove God doesn't exist, so true for your Free Will delusion. FSM…"
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Unseen replied to Unseen's discussion 'This topic again'
"When Republicans talk about the people who are no longer looking for work as a critique of the improvement of the economy under Obama, they are being a little coy. While there is guilt for the economic downturn that can be laid at the feet of both…"
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SteveInCO replied to Unseen's discussion 'This topic again'
"Many welfare systems today are designed in exactly the opposite way.  If you get a job, you lose the benefit entirely.  That means any starting job is likely to *lower* your income.  At that point, why bother getting one? There should…"
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Unseen replied to Ralph Burks's discussion 'Are atheist a part of the collective consciousness?'
"+1 Sounds like pure New Agey bullwoo.  Everyone/everything is connected is trivially true, like saying everyone is in a relationship with every other person, that relation being something like "north of," "taller than,"…"
Unseen replied to Unseen's discussion 'Sam Harris on the Illusion of Free Will'
"(Moving up to the top level) LOL Are you totally blind to the fact that you are presupposing that the conscious mind has free will, which is what you are trying to prove? Classic begging the question."
matt.clerke replied to Unseen's discussion 'This topic again'
"This is a fascinating subject to me. On the one hand, I can picture the end result of technology taking over jobs: more people with free time to explore more interesting pursuits. On the other hand, millions of people are out of the job in the…"
Pope Beanie replied to Unseen's discussion 'Sam Harris on the Illusion of Free Will'
"@Unseen wrote: It might be more accurate to say (in terms of "no processing") that the conscious mind interacts with the subconsious, especially during our highest level decision processing. Take math, for simple example. "
Pope Beanie replied to Unseen's discussion 'Sam Harris on the Illusion of Free Will'
" I copied the following from a Kindle book Are You Sure? The Unconscious Origins of Certainty : And another good quote from the same book: "Our mental limitations prevent us from accepting our mental limitations.""
Unseen replied to Ralph Burks's discussion 'Are atheist a part of the collective consciousness?'
"+1 The main thing we humans seem to do well is to f**k sh*t up."
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Scientists are now admitting that nuclear power is greener than other alternatives

Posted on January 8, 2015 at 12:29pm 36 Comments

The full read from which the following quote is taken is here.

Nuclear power is one of the least damaging sources of energy for the environment, and the green movement must accept its expansion if the world is to…


A great number of paradoxes, starting with Scroedinger's cat

Posted on April 18, 2014 at 8:00pm 1 Comment

I'm sorry, but I had to stop listening to this bit at about the fourth paradox due to being out of breath from laughing. How long can you last?

Famous last words. No...really!

Posted on February 6, 2014 at 6:30pm 1 Comment

I found a website where Texas lists every capital execution from 1982 on. One of the more interesting things about it is that it includes any last statements the prisoners made. Interesting reading. Lots of "foxhole converts" among them, I note.

OBAMACARE Is Better Than You Think

Posted on September 24, 2013 at 11:40am 1 Comment

In just one week the main part of Obamacare will begin to kick in. This is the state level exchanges that will allow the uninsured to be covered. Beginning on October 1, people will be able to sign up to get insurance in their state regardless of their health.

Most people signing up on the exchanges will qualify for subsidies based on their income and family size. This means that the cost of insurance will be less than the advertised price.

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At 7:41pm on May 29, 2016, W1NT3R5 said…
Yeah dude. I was pleasantly surprised. That movie's not very good, as is the story with most modern Adam Sandler movies, but that was pretty cool. I wish it would have actually been Matt Frewer dressed up though.
At 1:48am on May 29, 2016, W1NT3R5 said…
https://youtu.be/plrZB1AceXU this is a link to my personal channel so you know it isn't spam. It's Max Headroom's latest appearance.
At 9:58pm on April 17, 2016, W1NT3R5 said…
Max Headroom's interview on David Letterman is hilarious, and available on YouTube.

I suggest buying the DVD if you haven't. Unfortunately Frewer isn't involved in any of the documentary features in the set, but there is plenty of that material available online. The DVD set contains the show from the 1987-88 American run, omitted is the Talking Headroom show and the 20 Minutes Into The Future (which is also available in its entirety on YouTube).
At 10:56pm on April 16, 2016, W1NT3R5 said…
So we don't always get along. However, I had no idea who Max Headroom was but your photo reminded me of a person I used to be acquainted with, and I searched it on Google and discovered him. I have now purchased the DVD set and watched everything available on YouTube, and while it was not your intention, you have created a fan of that show simply by choosing an avatar. Whatever it's worth, I appreciate it. Hopefully your ribs are healing well.
At 3:22am on April 3, 2016, JadeBlackOlive said…

Glad to hear that!

At 1:53am on April 3, 2016, JadeBlackOlive said…

How are you feeling, Unseen?

At 4:38am on December 26, 2015, Royce Earnest Rasmussen said…

Thank you!

At 3:26pm on December 14, 2014, Virgil said…

You and I got off to a bad start and I almost gave up on AT cuz of it.  I'm glad I didn't.  Amazing how much you and I agree on besides views on how jobs are created, the meaning of wealth and what produces it. All of that I believe about those things are from my personal experience in the past 5 years since becoming a civilian. I believe in them more today than ever before but all that is teeny minor crap compared to my core convictions.  The main reason I argued with you about that was the wrong reason to to argue.  I was offended on a personal level by things you said and I gave into that & put my anger ahead of reason. 

Interrogation.  Please point out any errors in you see in my reasoning.... (why ask, you'll do it even if I don't ask hahahaha!)

my last tour 2009 in Afgh I was a E4, a corporal, just one tiny small guy the big picture. When I heard this report was coming out I thought "oh shit!  This is going to get nasty!"  But wait... "nasty" is a relative term. As a war vet, my idea of nasty in regards to what could have been in that report  is waaaaaaaaay different from Joe Civilian's definition of nasty.  In fact my definition of nasty info on EIT would be impossible for him to wrap his head around and not break out in a chicken little dance. 

There's no damned way Feinstein & the others with that report know less about EIT than I do unless the CIA and armed forces have been totally lying to them.  That's just not possible. 

I've read all I can find for details, watched TV for the hot talking points and I have come to the conclusion that whole report just about has to be a psyop to cover ALLLLLLLLL the shit guys like me know and all the shit guys like me don't know.  For me there hasn't been ONE DETAIL in that report that was newsy or nasty.  I really feel what's going on is a well planned magician's trick that starts  off with him saying, "watch me cut off my right hand" to distract everyone IN THE WORLD while they sneak a 60 ton plaid elephant across the stage. 

This isn't a conspiracy theory about some secret plot from the Obama white house.  This is a theory about possibly pulling off a great Intel move to benefit the very people and programs that it's supposed to be making the focus of world wide outrage. 

But wait.  There's more.

There were things in that report that were totally ridiculous and almost funny when you thin about them.  ONLY  dummasses would fall for some of the shit AND the media and none of the "experts" have even tried to point the silly shit out. 

Think. The report says next to no vital intel has been obtained through EIT.  It says most of the intel obtained is lies told under torture.  I don't recall ONE time in my whole 22 months in Afgh when we were told, "get your guns and let's go find some bad guys to shoot." Every time we did anything se went out to specific places looking at specific times, to look for specific people, specific things and act like we were just dumb gyrines who didn't know what we were looking for. One time we did a four hour search on a small 6 house village before "noticing" the exact item we'd been shown satellite images of sitting right in our way the whole time.   Sooooo where did that intel come from?  The pentagon must be using psychics and have consult fortune tellers.  ...........  That's just one example.  One time we were rushed out to set up a  fake road check, told what car to look for, who would be in it and make sure its 4 tires were blown out 1 km before the road block so the occupants would have to get out and walk after all traffic on the road was stopped to prevent them from hitching rides.  When we go the guys back to base there were interesting guys there. After a staged accidental explosion the 3

At 9:06pm on September 19, 2014, Davis Goodman said…

Can't believe we weren't official friends here all this time!!!!

At 3:34am on September 2, 2014, Demetrius Alcala said…

You stole CBS



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