so do you not have an opinion as to old or young earth and evolution and all that. i see no evidence biblical that satan was cast to earth long before adam and eve arrived, is your statement just speculation or .... specifically what is ur opionion of adam and eve real? first people? did other species evolve unto them?
i understand what you are saying. i think the physical sperm analogies might be lacking a bit but they obviously always are. I see the subordination in the biblical texts that you talk about when christ is a man. However, his preexistence before he became a man and whether he was subordinate or not would be purely speculation and honestly not that important. There may be some subtle implications of all this theologically but I don't think it really should constitute to much criticism of the trinitarion doctrine seeing that ultiimately I still have to believe jesus is fully god. Whether, he was in some sense subordinate as the godman seems to not matter that much. All that to say I get what your saying though.
Your welcome. And that's just the thing about atheists... we're more open minded than a lot of theists [our term for religious people as a general] are. Many theist, whether Christian, Muslim, etc. are defensive because they have a precious worldview to defend, a worldview that is based upon no or little evidence (most of the time). I'll let you know that we understand you being treated as a threat, we are ALWAYS treated as a threat. I live among many conservative Christians [not your type but the kind your say are fake] and they make up all kinds of lies about us as a way to avoid trying to face the questions and criticism we pose to them. Although, to be taken seriously by atheists here you must show that you are a theist [literally meaning "one who believes in God"] that is willing to be accepting and not troll on our forumn. I think you are already accomplishing this. However, don't think we're disrespecting you because we challenge your statements and beliefs, that's what we do to all theists. It's my personal opinion that if you have a belief that you are not willing to be criticized and answer to that criticism then your belief isn't that strong to begin with. Am I right?
A Living Oracle must exhibit uncanny supernatural abilities. He or She most certainly won't be wearing a name tag. They will exhibit or be affiliated with a body that, truly: Heal the sick, Cast out devils and Raise the dead. This body must exhibit all the supernatural abilities that Jesus Christ had when he was on earth.
When Nero set the Christians of fire on Vatican Hill to give light to Rome, there was a more sinister agenda. When Emperor Constantine decrees Christian Orthodoxy thought the Empire, it is Constantine’s way or the highway, enforced by sword.
This is why Hebraic Christianity was eradicated off the face of the earth.
If the 1st Christians were just a bunch gullible people spewing fair tales as you imply I assure the Roman Empire would not have devoted so much time and resources
in formulating its on brand of " foolish to Greeks and a stumbling block to the Jew"
Constantine's brand had the additional spin of being base on the Pagan Trinity.
and incorporating all Empire Festivals including the Winter Solstice and the Spring Ishtar Eggs.