Why is it hard to grasp christianity for some people?

        My whole life I have followed christianity. When I was i thought that majority of the world beleived in Christ but now that im getting older im seeing more and more people are either non-beleivers or follow another faith. So lately I have been thinking about how much harder it would be to think that our wonderful world was created out of nothing! And I would like to know why it's hard to beleive in something that cannot be disproven? So please tell me.

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Comment by CJoe on April 12, 2011 at 8:23pm

Oh Jacob.

What else cannot be disproved? The existence of unicorns, leprechauns, fairies, elves, gnomes, Zeus, Ra, etc etc etc (provided they all share the "invisible/silent" characteristic, or if they suddenly disappear when you enter the room). 

Why is it hard to believe in those things, Jacob? They cannot be disproved. In fact you cannot prove you were NOT in Russia last week unless you have an alibi, which is a positive proof. You cannot be in two places at once, therefore you could not have been in Russia if you provide evidence you were somewhere else. God has no alibi; we can't prove he does not exist, but he never seems to show up anywhere at all. There's no positive proof of his existence.

And, if you'll do a bit of research, you'll find that no one is claiming our wonderful world was created from nothing. Ironically, you're claiming something came from nothing: God. You, conveniently, have an excuse for this. He's outside of space and time; he cannot be verified because he's invisible, silent, omnipresent yet intangible. Talk about moving the goal post. Sooo... something as complex as the universe could not have come from nothing, but something much more complex (namely a god) can have come from nothing? Hmmm...

Jacob, you've really answered your own questions. We don't believe a god exists for the same reason you don't believe there are fairies hiding in the garden. Also, if you don't believe something can come from nothing, then it's a contradiction to believe a god can have come from nothing. Does this fact not cause you cognitive dissonance?

Comment by Jacob w on April 12, 2011 at 8:55pm

Well since you asked I will back down.

and im saying that with all the evidence that shows there is a god how can you not believe in it when theres nothing to disprove it and yet there is sooooo much evidence for Him.

Im sorry if you feel as though i am impeeding on this website but i was just trying to do my job.

Comment by Jacob w on April 12, 2011 at 9:03pm

@ Cara Coleen

Thats the thing about god! he didnt come from nothing because he has always been. But god also doesnt want us to know everything because we would not be human if we did and if we did know everything there would be no need to follow him.

Comment by Galen on April 12, 2011 at 9:16pm

with all the evidence that shows there is a god

 

>Implying that any such evidence exists

 

I lol'd hard.  Cool story, bro.

Comment by Jacob w on April 12, 2011 at 9:25pm

Umm the hundreds of people healed by miracals of Jesus. Also that Everything written in the bible has so far come true other than the Revelations.

Example: All the prophecies about Christ were fullfiled in his life time. And the BIGGEST fact that jesus resseructed and had thousnads of sights after his crusifixtion. Now are you going to tell me that hundreds of people saw the same man At once after his death?

Comment by Zebadiah Ray Long on April 12, 2011 at 9:30pm

So if I predict something at the beginning of a story and then say it happened at the end, that is evidence? I think you're going to have to do a lot better than that.

 

Taking thing in the bible as fact is the opposite of evidence, it is faith. What is your evidence that Jesus healed people by miracles?

Comment by Zebadiah Ray Long on April 12, 2011 at 9:32pm

"Now are you going to tell me that hundreds of people saw the same man At once after his death?"

 

Where is your evidence that this happened? Outside of the bible? There may be some historical evidence idk, Link or it didn't happen. But even if there is, historical evidence is not scientific evidence. All that would prove is that people at some point said or wrote down that they saw jesus after he died, it wouldn't prove that it actually happened.

Comment by Zebadiah Ray Long on April 12, 2011 at 9:35pm

"Thats the thing about god the universe! he it didnt come from nothing because he has always been."

 

I'm starting to think you are a troll.

Comment by CJoe on April 12, 2011 at 9:39pm

Yes, yes. He's always been. So if he could have always been here, why not the universe? Give me a good reason. This "God doesn't want us to know everything so we can turn to him for answers" is a ridiculous cop out. Human beings have made incredible strides toward knowledge about the universe, even despite deadly resistance from the Church. We can know much about the universe. Don't be so content with ignorance. Ignorance is a form of slavery, and you're a slave to the teachings of the Bible (as I'm sure you would admit to, as there are verses that blatantly state as much).

Well Jacob, I'm not satisfied with "God did it" as an answer, because there are much more satisfying and incredible answers to be discovered. I want nothing to do with a religion who demonizes education and knowledge.

And, who are these "hundreds of people healed by Jesus" you speak of? Are they documented? Or are we just going to accept hearsay? Paul wrote about Jesus' life, yet he never met him; in fact, no one wrote about Jesus until 70+ years after his death. A little suspicious if you ask me. Sooo... Paul heard about this guy who healed people? Did he at least interview these people? Nope. By that time, they were probably dead. A lot of good that healing did in the long run!

Everything written in Revelations could be construed to have come true, yes. In this century, and the one before, and the one before. It's easy to fit vague, horoscope-like predictions into various slots throughout time.

Did you see Jesus resurrect? Nope. You're just accepting rumors repeated for thousands of years and demanding no proof. 

Again, you say "hundreds of people saw the same man", but who are they? Where did they write this experience down? Do you know that literally millions of people claim to have seen UFOs, and now at least they have (badly photoshopped) pictures to prove it.

These are not "proofs", Jacob. There are fossils in the ground that have been dug up and displayed in museums, or stored in laboratories across the world. We can see animal species transitioning from one form to the next. They recorded their own story by leaving their bones in the ground for us to examine. Jesus couldn't even do that much... not that his bones would prove his divinity.

Sorry, "extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence", and you've got nothin' but rumors and hearsay.

Comment by Zebadiah Ray Long on April 12, 2011 at 9:41pm
don't bother, I'm sure he's gone by now, being unable to answer even one of our questions / requests for evidence.

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