The Universe: Abandoned by the black void of God.

In my quest to find God, I turned to science. In my quest to replace God with something more substantial, I discovered the wonders of the Universe and the possibilities I thought it could offer the human race.

Upon my personal realization that the supernatural God is, in all probability, not real, I thought that it would only make sense to turn that awe-inspired emotion we call "spirituality" to something that couldn't disappoint me the same way that God (or the notion of God) has disappointed me. In all actuality I'm beginning to think what I got is worse.

For awhile I was content praising the science of the Universe, the Universe itself, astrophysics, biology, and all the new theories derived from modern astrophysics (such as string theory, branes, new dimensions, potential time travel and even teleportation..) as explanations of how we (and the Universe) got here, to where it and we can and will go.

I find it very disheartening to learn about the damning fact that the Universe is eternally expanding and that our galaxy is very quickly being left behind. One day there will be nothing left within view of our greatest telescopic capabilities other than that which is in our immediate galaxy, for all the other galaxies in our universe are traveling away from us at unprecedented speeds.

In the end our Universe will be so far expanded that we won't be able to see other galaxies at all, even with our insanely epic technology to view galaxies that seem unrealistically and unfathomably distant from us as they already are. LOL....and they are speeding away even further. The greater implications of this fact are obviously things I won't be around to see for myself. But it still leaves me feeling rather defeated.

I decided for myself that there was no spiritual God. I decided that the Universe is the only thing that deserves that kind of attention from me. And in the end it seems as though the Universe I've chosen in place of God is even leaving me.

It's funny. No one can prove that God does or doesn't exist. So those who still believe in God still have hope of something in their hearts.

Those of us, like myself, who believed in the Universe ..... Well, it appears that if the Universe is to me what God is to a Christian, then my "God" is not only proven to exist, but proven to have turned his back on me and my world altogether. LOL.

Does anyone understand my thoughts on this? One day, eons from now, the Universe will leave our galaxy enveloped in a cold, black, void..... Even if we acquire the means to travel to other galaxies, they will have far outran our capabilities to reach them.

If the Universe is any kind of "God" in it's own right, it has surely turned it's back and left us without so much as a "Goodbye" or a "Fuck off"..... for it is most definitely proven without a shadow of doubt that the "heavens" are leaving us all behind. Just a thought. Please feel free to share yours.

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Comment by Jason D. Johnson on January 1, 2011 at 1:36pm
Thank you Doone.  Surprisingly, you have coaxed me into feeling less hopeless.  :)  I appreciate this for sure.
Comment by Allen Sneed on January 1, 2011 at 3:19pm
Sorry, but the universe doesn't care about you. Actually, the universe doesn't care at all. And neither does science.
Comment by Albert Bakker on January 1, 2011 at 3:25pm

This always puzzled me. Why some people would slip into a sense of existential despair at the thought of the Universe reaching a state of thermal equilibrium zillions of zillions of years from now, a time-interval where "now" can't even be distinguished from the moment of the Big Bang with microscopic resolution. People find that a much worse scenario for some reason than Big Crunches. At least, so they seem to reason, that fate might be equally fatal but not equally final. The basis for that conclusion not entirely clear or made explicit.

The same for people who get a sense of urgency to start seriously thinking about and working on the plan to leave the planet at the thought that we have but a few billion years left before the Sun starts going weird on us.

I do not get why that would cause you any mood swings. When I want to feel down and feel hopeless about the fate of human life, I just switch on television.

Comment by Allen Sneed on January 1, 2011 at 3:28pm
Very true doone. And many scientists care. Perhaps when stop anthropomorphizing non-existent and/or inanimate things we can learn that love, kindness and hope can be found in each other.
Comment by Albert Bakker on January 1, 2011 at 3:29pm
But I do like the comparison.
Comment by Dave G on January 1, 2011 at 7:17pm

Jason, you might enjoy reading Michio Kaku's Physics Of The Impossible. One of the 'Impossible' technologies he discusses is the possibility of our (or at least, our far-future descendants) developing the needed technology to travel from our universe to another, younger one, thus escaping the inevitable end of our native plane.


It's a fun book, with all kinds of interesting takes on what is probable, what is possible, and what would require a fundamental shift in our understanding of physics to achieve.

Comment by Albert Bakker on January 2, 2011 at 4:29am

And some of those giant Buddha statues you have outlived in your lifetime. They once were thought eternal and now they are dust. Silly bearded men thought they gained a victory. Not so. It was their fate all along.

I think maybe end-of-the-universe anxiety is a slightly more sophisticated variant on your regular end-of-the-world anxiety for more educated people.

There's so much more to worry about and so much more room for imagination and even real scientific valid reasoning when you scale up your end-time stage to cosmic proportions.

The earth will cool off. Our earth magnetic field will decay. The moon will leave us. The Sun will cook us and in about 8 billion years will run out of helium and will toast us again. Meanwhile our beautiful galaxy will collide with Andromeda, will we become orphans? Much later galaxies will leave our Hubble bubble, what will become of our romantic nights? Astrologers and astronomers are going to poison the job market. How many earth-shattering impacts are going to kill us waiting for these spectacular events to happen. Will we be caught in the head lights of a near by gamma ray burst? Are we going to have to worry more about protons decaying than reaching unsurvivable levels of entropy or the other way around, will we red-shift into oblivion?

Another reading suggestion that might in a very amusing way alleviate your existential crisis is Phil Plait's "Death From The Skies."

Comment by Jason D. Johnson on January 2, 2011 at 6:44am

I love that some of you had to reply with sarcasm when it was totally unnecessary.  Sorry, but you have to be less intelligent than a wet bag of hammers to not know that when I say "the Universe is leaving us", I
don't mean that I literally thought it loved me.  But you don't need to
pull your spare IQ points off of the shelf to understand that I'm generally
disappointed by the notion that our race may not have a chance at
outrunning extinction, which I used to (and might still) think possible
through science, astrophysics and space exploration. 


For those of you who feel compelled to hunt down good opportunities to use the clever sarcasm you seem to be so proud of, I will try to dumb it down for you next time so that you, like everyone else, are not in
danger of being caught up in the emotionally-metaphorical semantics. 
That was totally my bad.  Sorry.


For those of you who had educated and friendly replies, I am thankful indeed.  Think maybe I just got caught up in a moment.  Sometimes learning too much at once can be overwhelming I think.

Comment by Albert Bakker on January 2, 2011 at 7:36am

Hmm.. but listen. I'm a bastard I'll admit to that, but it was and is not my intention to tread on your feelings about this stuff. How you feel about it is how you feel about it. The only thing I can try to point at is a rational basis to get over them.

It is very difficult to get some grasp of deep time. But I did this once. Try draw on a (very) large piece of paper or cardboard a line that represents the time of the formation of our solar system (4,6-4,5 billion years ago) and the formation of earth (4,54 billion years ago) to the present day and then try to fit on that line where our ancestral line split off from that of the chimpanzees (5-7 million years ago) and then where modern humans first arise (about a measly 200.000 years ago.)

You are going to need very sharp pencils.

Now put your paper on a very long road and extend that line at one end to the moment of Big Bang (13,8 billion years ago) and then at the other end to the time when our Universe is so fast expanding that the sky (there will be no earth to view this from) becomes empty. This will be from about 10E92 years from now onward. I'll advise you not to try to complete the task, but on your long, long journey down that road, I can almost guarantee you will stop worrying about the fate of the human race on these ridiculously large time scales.

Comment by Jason D. Johnson on January 2, 2011 at 7:45am
It is ridiculously large time scale last stars visible from Earth (if it were to magically survive that long, I doubt that it will), will burn out in about 1 Trillion years from now.  I guess I should consider myself lucky enough to live in the time where we can still be close enough to the rest of the nearby Universe to study it.


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