The Evolutionary Purpose of Male Homosexuality

A recent show on the science channel alerted me to an interesting new hypothesis about the evolution of homosexuality. Contrary to popular thought, it does not appear to be an accident. (If anyone can find documentation about this new hypothesis... let me know). Particularly interesting is the behavior of primate males in family groups. As is well known, apes (such as chimanzees, bonobos, and gorillas) that live in family groups consist of many females, one dominant male that gets exclusive access to mating with the females, and sometimes one or more submissive males that do not have the right to mate with the females. A new scientific hypothesis suggests that our early ancestors (who may have lived in similar family groups) may have developed homosexuality among these "submissive" males. The sexual behavior of the apes currently being studied suggests that male homosexuality has an important evolutionary advantage in family groups. The submissive males engage in homosexual behavior as a way to satisfy sexual instincts... but the advantage goes further than that. By engaging in homosexuality, the submissive males present themselves as no threat to the dominate male and thus promote group harmony, by discouraging male fighting over mates. Furthermore, these homosexual males provided survival advantages to the family group by helping to protect the females and infants from predators and rival family groups and to find food for the group. In this case, the sacrifice of the genetic survival of one individual gave an enormous advantage to the survival of the group. - Which is something evolution has been known to favor.

Although this particular advantage of homosexuality is obsolete for humans, the homosexual orientation would have survived despite that because our society changes far faster than evolution.

So.. for any homophobes that claim homosexuality is "unnatural" - Au Contraire! It is VERY natural, for some people!

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Comment by Arcus on March 14, 2012 at 4:36pm

"Those white skinned people"

Not all European peoples (get it right, please) are white skinned. Both the Sami and Tatars are probably closer to what you would term "yellow" (as in Asian). And smack bang in the middle of Europe there's a country called Hungary, which is because they took their names from the Huns, a nomadic people which originally came from the great steppes of Central Asia. A few millenia earlier, people from the same area went eastwards into the Americas. You could also add to that the fact that many Europeans can trace their ancestry back to the Aryans, which came from India (and is also where the country of Iran gets it's previous and current name from.)

Culture goes back a wee bit longer and has a few more influences than what has happened over the last few hundred years.

Comment by Shabaka Tecumseh on March 14, 2012 at 5:27pm

As "White" skinned as one can get compared to Nigerians, Ghananians, Sengelese..but never mind about that.. plus this idea of "whiteness" for some who REALLY see beyond skin color, (not the politically correct view) is more cultural than an expression of phenotype. 

As for the so called "Huns" (which by the way was a nickname for Germans) image a land mass with no drawn bounderies from the Atlantic to the Pacific. Where would this place called Europe begin and where would this place called the "Central Asia" begin?  One could walk from what we called Spain today to China. So what would make you think that the early humans didn't take that walk and are basically the same people whose phenotype was altered by climate?

Aryan what in the world is that?  Who are they? OH, you mean those people who are said to originate in the Central Asians Steepes.

I see you share the same views about the origin of the so called "Aryans" as Hitler.

"The early Indians and Iranians are commonly identified with the descendants of the Proto-Indo-Europeans known as the Andronovo culture and their homeland with an area of the Eurasian steppe that borders the Ural River on the west, the Tian Shan on the east. This culture spread southeast to what today is Iran, Pakistan and India."


However I wish you could use your common sense minus the racially charged history that prevails for edification of European cultural supremacy.  I'd give you some food for thought, but I don't think you are ready and it would waste both of our time.  I can see that already..

Comment by kris feenstra on March 14, 2012 at 5:31pm

We (myself included) have sidetracked this conversation considerably.  While it isn't strictly enforced, the guidelines do state that comments stay on topic in a given thread.  If participants would like to continue to discuss European peoples or racial issues, please start a separate thread or or blog for that purpose before the discussion on evolutionary homosexuality is irreversibly derailed.

Comment by kris feenstra on March 14, 2012 at 5:35pm

Just to be clear, subsequent off topic responses will be removed and returned to the respective owners so that they can be copied and pasted into the afore mentioned new thread.

My apologies for my own part in the derailment.  Your cooperation would be greatly appreciated. 

Comment by Shabaka Tecumseh on March 14, 2012 at 5:38pm

i was thinking the same thing.. of course they will be makes sense


Comment by Shabaka Tecumseh on March 14, 2012 at 5:39pm

Let's get back to homosexuality..



Comment by archaeopteryx on March 14, 2012 at 6:06pm

@ Shabaka - I've tried to interpret that post with little success, other than to note that it is filled with sarcasm. I can only say that I acknowledge only one race, the Human Race, and I have neither the time, energy, nor inclination to argue with anyone who views life otherwise. You sound like you're carrying a heavy load - hopefully, you can eventually learn how much harm it's doing you and set it aside.

pax vobiscum,
(peace be with you),

Comment by Shabaka Tecumseh on March 14, 2012 at 8:15pm

Arch I've already learned about the "harm". I know EXACTLY how much it hurts, who, and why but if I didn't do what I do, (along with some others) there will be no chance of  REAL change, not Obama change.

I don't wish to argue either, but please discuss that there could be another explanation and not assume your information and world view is correct just because your academic/social institutions support your claim.

Remember the institution of Religion will try to wipe us out if we begin to get a serious foothold on the minds of the people. The same goes for other "institutions"..

Let me add this and I'm done with this.  I don't believe in the concept of "race" it would be hypocritical of me to acknowledge some "human race." I do acknowledge culture, it's proven itself and there are different human cultures.

Comment by archaeopteryx on March 14, 2012 at 8:25pm

Shabaka, Keith made a good point earlier, we can continue this by private message and let others get on with the discussion at hand - in fact, I've already sent you one.

pax vobiscum,

Comment by archaeopteryx on March 15, 2012 at 12:11pm

This should be of special interest to this site:

Lawsuit: US pastor runs anti-gay effort in Uganda

pax vobiscum,


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