The Ebionites followed a text known as the Gospel of Matthew to the Hebrews

they believed that Jesus was a prophet.

 Waraqa bin Naufal was one of those Ebionites, or you can say that the Meccan suras of the Quran were the other version of the Ebionites Gospel…

and of course with some adds by muhammed because Muhammad was smart..

  

The Ebionites believed;

1. Jesus was a created human and not divine
2. Jesus was a teacher
3. Jesus was the expected Messiah
4.The Law of the Torah must be observed
5.Theirs was the earliest congregation of followers to Jesus, starting from around 30 AD
Several church fathers described how Ebionites rejected The Divinity of Jesus and The Atoning Death of Jesus.

According to those church fathers, the Ebionites emphasized the oneness of God and the humanity of Jesus. They considered Paul an apostate of the law who corrupted Jesus’ message.

History,

Some scholars argue that the Ebionites survived much longer and identify them with a sect encountered by the historian Abd al-Jabbar ibn Ahmad around the year 1000. Another possible reference to surviving Ebionite communities in northwestern Arabia, specifically the cities of Tayma and Tilmas, around the 11th century, appears in Sefer Ha'masaot, the "Book of the Travels" of Rabbi Benjamin of Tudela, a rabbi from Spain.  12th century Muslim historian Muhammad al-Shahrastani mentions Jews living in nearby Medina and Hejaz who accepted Jesus as a prophetic figure and followed traditional Judaism, rejecting mainstream Christian views.  Some scholars argue that they contributed to the development of the Islamic view of Jesus due to exchanges of Ebionite remnants with the first Muslims.  However, Muslim theologians and those who accept their narratives of early Islam maintain that the Islamic view of Jesus was revealed in the Quran well before any significant Muslim encounter with Christians such as the Migration to Abyssinia.  à from Wikipedia

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ebionites

 

 

List of some of those Ebionites who were im Arabia,

-Waraqah ibn Nawfal

-Pastor bani Saida

-Hashim ibn Abd al-Manaf Abdul Muttalib

-Abd Allah ibn ‘Abd al-Muttalib

-Abu Talib ibn ‘Abd al-Muttalib

-Muhammad

 -Ali

 -Said ibn Zayd

 

 

The cave of Hira where Muhammad

  received his first revelation,

 

Muhammed was studying what he called the Religion of Abraham at the cave of Hira before received his first revelation. I assume that he was a monk!

 

Information on Gospel of the Ebionites

http://www.earlychristianwritings.com/gospelebionites.html

In The Other Gospels, Cameron makes the following observations: "The Gospel of the Ebionites (Gos. Eb.) is a gospel harmony preserved in a few quotations in the writings of Epiphanius (a church writer who lived at the end of the fourth century C.E.). The original title of this gospel is unknown. The designation customary today is based on the fact that this was the gospel probably used by the Ebionites, a group of Greek-speaking Jewish Christians who were prominent throughout the second and third centuries. Epiphanius incorrectly entitles this the 'Hebrew' gospel, and alleges that it is an abridged, truncated version of the Gospel of Matthew. Whereas the Gospel of the Ebionites is indeed closely related to Matthew, examination of the extant fragments reveals that much of the text is a harmony, composed in Greek, of the Gospels Matthew and Luke (and, probably, the Gospel of Mark as well). Although Irenaeus (late in the second century) attests to the existence of this gospel, we are dependent solely upon the quotations given by Epiphanius for our knowledge of the contents of the text."

The Gospel of the Ebionites omits the infancy narratives. The gospel presents both John the Baptist and Jesus as vegetarians, and Jesus says that he has come to abolish sacrifices. Cameron says, "Together with the sayings about the passover, this intimates a polemic against the Jewish Temple." This indicates that the Gospel of the Ebionites, like the Gospel of Matthew, addresses the issue of "Jewish identity after the destruction of the Temple." The solution offered to this problem is "to believe in Jesus, the true interpreter of the Law." Cameron suggests that the Gospel of the Ebionites was written in the mid-second century in Syria or Palestine.

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Comment by Hope on January 25, 2011 at 2:29pm

I believe that there were Christians in Saudi Arabia in the past.

Al-Qurtubi (muslim scholar) said about the apostles of Jesus,

Bartholomew was one of the apostles of Jesus

Bartholomew went to the lands of Arabia, specifically Al-Hijaz

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*But there is no historical evidence whether they were,

Arians, Nestorian or Ebionites.

Some famous families in saudi arabia in addition to my family

belong to Hatim al-Tai that was a Christian..

Comment by Hope on March 24, 2011 at 10:29pm

Extended Definition: ebionites

Ebionites

The Ebionites (Greek: Ἐβιωναῖοι Ebionaioi from Hebrew; אביונים[citation needed], Ebyonim, "the Poor Ones") were an early Jewish Christian sect that lived in and around Judea and Palestine from the 1st to the 4th century.[1]

Name

The term Ebionites derives from the Hebrew Evyonim, meaning "the Poor Ones",[3] which has parallels in the Psalms and the self-given term of pious Jewish circles.[4][17] The term "the poor" was at first a common designation for all Christians - a reference to their material as well their religious poverty.

Comment by Hope on March 24, 2011 at 10:37pm

 

History

Part of the series on
Jewish Christians

 
 

Without authenticated archaeological evidence, attempts to reconstruct their history have been based on textual references, mainly the writings of the Church Fathers. The earliest reference to a group that might fit the description of the Ebionites appears in Justin Martyr's Dialogue with Trypho (c. 140). Justin distinguishes between Jewish Christians who observe the Law of Moses but does not require its observance upon others, and those who believe the Mosaic Law to be obligatory on all.[24] Irenaeus (c. 180) was the first to use the term "Ebionites" to describe a heretical judaizing sect, which he regarded as stubbornly clinging to the Law.[25] Origen (c. 212) remarks that the name derives from the Hebrew word "evyon," meaning "poor.

Views and practices

Judaic and Gnostic Ebionitism

Most patristic sources portray the Ebionites as traditional yet ascetic Jews, who zealously followed the Law of Moses, revered Jerusalem as the holiest city,[25] and restricted table fellowship only to Gentiles who converted to Judaism.[24] They celebrated a commemorative meal annually,[41] on or around Passover, with unleavened bread and water only, in contrast to the daily Christian Eucharist.[42][43][27]

Epiphanius of Salamis is the only Church Father who describes some Ebionites as departing from traditional Jewish principles of faith and practice; specifically by engaging in excessive ritual bathing,[44] possessing an angelology which claimed that the Christ is a great archangel who was incarnated in Jesus and adopted as the son of God,[45][46] opposing animal sacrifice,[46] denying parts or most of the Law,[47] and practicing religious vegetarianism

Jesus

The majority of Church Fathers agree that the Ebionites rejected many of the central Christian views of Jesus such as the pre-existence, divinity, virgin birth, atoning death, and physical resurrection of Jesus.[1] The Ebionites are described as emphasizing the oneness of God and the humanity of Jesus as the biological son of both Mary and Joseph, who by virtue of his righteousness, was chosen by God to be the messianic "prophet like Moses" (foretold in Deuteronomy 18:14–22) when he was anointed with the holy spirit at his baptis.

Extended Definition: ebionites

Comment by archaeopteryx on January 2, 2013 at 1:18pm

There may be fragments, as suggested above, of Ebionite texts, but all we really know of the Ebionites comes from those who opposed them, such as Tertullian, Origen and Iranaeus, whose points of view could certainly be considered negatively biased, to say the least.

They are first mentioned around 30 BCE, shortly after the death (if he ever existed) of Yeshua, and were termed, "the Poor," because they chose to give away what they had to the needy, and live in poverty as they believed their "lord" had done.

They believed Yeshua to have been fully mortal, born of the sexual union of Mary and Joseph, yet who, because he had lived a perfect life, was chosen by god, at his baptism, to be adopted as his son. They did, however, believe that Yeshua was chosen to die for the sins of the world, and was resurrected, not through his own power, but by god, and taken to heaven.

They believed that to follow god, one had to be Jewish, in the sense that one followed all of the Jewish laws, including keeping of the Sabbath, circumcision, and eating kosher. When they prayed, they faced Jerusalem. The exception was that they believed that the sacrifice of Yeshua eliminated the need for further animal sacrifices, as was the Jewish custom, to offer such sacrifices for atonement (which did little except fatten priests).

Author Bart Ehrman, in his book, Lost Christianities, maintains, unlike that which Cameron suggests above, that nothing of the Ebionite writings survive, not even the fragments Cameron mentions. However, one of the Ebionites staunch opponents, an orthodox fourth-century bishop, Epiphanius, of the island of Cyprus, just off the coast of the Levant in the Mediterranean, wrote a scathing, book regarding 80 sects that he considered heretical, among those, the Ebionites, to whom he devoted a chapter. In it, he gives seven quotations from a bible the Ebionites were said to have used, and it is to these that Cameron may have been referring as the remaining fragments. The seven quotations lead some biblical scholars to believe the Ebionite bible may have been identical to a book in circulation at the time, known as The Gospel of the Nazareans.

That they spoke fluent Greek is evident, as is the fact that they weren't above altering scripture to suit their needs. The New Testament was written entirely in Greek, and from a fragment mentioned in Epiphanius, it was pointed out that in the Ebionite bible, in the first chapter of the Gospel of Mark, where in the Christian version, John, the Baptist is described as living off of "locusts and honey," the vegetarian Ebionites changed a single Greek letter in the Greek word for "locusts," which changed the passage to read that John lived on "pancakes and honey." Holy IHOP!

Comment by Hope on January 4, 2013 at 9:38am

@arch : Thank for the comment..


These infos about old christianity always interesting to me.. But unfortunately, I don't find good sources to read more about it.. I'm still looking.. I like to read for John of Damascus just to understand the old christian perspective, and there is another book called " History of pre-Islamic Arabia" by Jawad Ali.. So interesting..

Comment by Marvel on January 4, 2013 at 10:00am

there is a book i read about this called "a priest and a prophet" where it tells the relationship between Waraqa Ibn Nawfal and Muhammed .. it also spots on the differences in the Quran concerning the language and the composition of its verses during the life of Waraqa and after his death.

it's wriitin in arabic by Abo Mousa Elhariry .. its a very interesting subject.

Comment by archaeopteryx on January 4, 2013 at 12:50pm

For info on old Christianity, I can't recommend a better book than the one I mentioned above, by Ehrman. He tells us everything that happened from the beginning through the final decisions at the Council of Nicea, in 325 AD, that caused the 27 books of the New Testament to be chosen over all of the other books, mostly forgeries (but then some of the NT books are, as well), that were being passed around over that three hundred year period.

Comment by Hope on January 5, 2013 at 2:55am

Marvel and Archaeopteryx, Thank you..

Comment by archaeopteryx on January 5, 2013 at 3:10am

For you dear lady and former Californian, never a problem --

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