Those not resilient as victims of not physical and thus invisible cruelties are considered as flawed, defective, weak and in need to be fixed. And too often they accept this themselves. They do not resist, rebel or protest, they do not demand better treatment, instead they take psycho-pharmaceuticals, go to therapy, or cope in even more unhealthy ways. They get sympathy and compassion as failures, not the solidarity needed as the victims of wrong behavior.
Discarding irrational religious beliefs does not suffice. Required is also a revision of the entire attitudes and habits as to what behaviors of religious roots are not only irrational but cause damage. This revision means to focus on taking full own responsibility by gaining full awareness and knowledge of the perception and experience of the target of behaviors. Even though some desensitization cannot be undone, full awareness can be a method of learning how to avoid harming after having decided to do so.
This is a copy from my ERCP-blog:
http://egalitarianrationalcommitmentparadigm.blogspot.de/2012/08/55...
Comment by archaeopteryx on August 7, 2012 at 10:03am Interesting insight, Maruli. If I may, let me add just a bit to what you've said:
"Parts of the training of soldiers is the desensitization to overcome any killing inhibition.
This desensitization is usually permanent. Soldiers coming back from the war may well have the insight and the self-control not to kill members of the ingroup, but they have no inhibition to do so."
I don't know if you've ever been in the military, but from my personal experience, it's not that the soldier lacks inhibitions, it's that the military machine strips the recruit of all preconceived inhibitions, then replaces them with ones advantageous to the goals of the combat unit - these, regrettably, are the ones the military man or woman takes home with him.
Comment by maruli marulaki on August 7, 2012 at 10:10am it's not that the soldier lacks inhibitions, it's that the military machine strips the recruit of all preconceived inhibitions,
This is what I meant to say in my not perfect English. I consider the removal of the killing instinct as a form of desensitization.
Comment by archaeopteryx on August 7, 2012 at 10:52am First of all, Maruli, I have no idea what your original language may be, but your English is perfect - I know Americans who wish they spoke as well.
One of the military's desensitization methods is the depersonalization of the "enemy" - if we can view the enemy as somewhat less human, it makes it easier to kill him. For American soldiers (and that's the only scenario I'm qualified to address) in WW II, Germans became, "Krauts" and "Jerry's," while Japanese became, "Japs." Later, Koreans and Vietnamese became, "Gooks," and the Chinese, "Chinks," and now, Muslims are "Towelheads."
Unfortunately, such desensitization is no longer confined to the military. It was once believed in America (and still is, though it's been disproved), that viewing pornography leads to promiscuity. As I said, that has been proven to not be true, but I believe - and I don't think I'm being an alarmist here like those who falsely accused pornography - but I believe that violent video games, which are now available anywhere in the world, significantly desensitizes young people to killing at an age where their minds are most vulnerable. "Winning" the game, in most cases, is directly related to killing the most people, and the excitement of playing, releases positive endorphins into the brains of the player, resulting in a "high" that the player naturally wants to repeat and which can certainly become as addictive as any other drug on the market.
Comment by archaeopteryx on August 7, 2012 at 10:55am It's a pity we have no way to release positive endorphins while studying differential equations --![]()
Comment by archaeopteryx on August 7, 2012 at 11:06am
Comment by maruli marulaki on August 7, 2012 at 11:31am but your English is perfect - I know Americans who wish they spoke as well.
I am German, and that is really flattering. I knew that I can get away with a few sentences, but I was sure that a long blog post would clearly indicate, that I am a foreigner.
It was once believed in America (and still is, though it's been disproved), that viewing pornography leads to promiscuity.
The problem is more complex. It is the desensitization to harming women, which is the cause of both scourges. Both do harm, so it is not important, if they reinforce each other or not. And how harm, desensitization and religion are connected - see above.
If you are interested, I have been blogging about this topic from the perspective of a woman, who starts to feel nausea as a result of the extreme commodification of women. Just use the labels 'pornography' and 'promiscuity'.
http://egalitarianrationalcommitmentparadigm.blogspot.com/
The allergization of the (potential) victim is the other side of the coin of the desensitization of the perpetrators.
And thanks for the nice picture. But I doubt that they would make good companions. The original of my larva was only about half the size of a ladybird.
Is feeling good about oneself after having succeeded with challenges like differential equations not a source of endorphins?
Comment by archaeopteryx on August 7, 2012 at 11:58am RE: "Is feeling good about oneself after having succeeded with challenges like differential equations not a source of endorphins?"
But herein lies the problem: "after having succeeded" - it's the process, rather than the success, that needs to produce the endorphins, otherwise too few will have the incentive to proceed to success. Much as with life, the joy should be in the journey, rather than the destination.
RE: http://egalitarianrationalcommitmentparadigm.blogspot.com/
I'll look into it sometime this afternoon. I also have a favor I need to do for a friend, and my own website to keep up with, but I will comment as I have time.
My maternal grandparents were German, with some Bohemian as well. I couldn't begin to pronounce the name of your city - is it in East Germany?
Comment by archaeopteryx on August 7, 2012 at 12:09pm I was completely wrong, it's quite near the Netherlands - sorry for my ignorance (it sometimes slips out) --
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