Surprise! Even some Christians support Satanist display at Oklahoma Capitol

Satanic monument

The leader of a Satanic temple said he has been touched by the support his group has received for its proposal to place a monument next to the Ten Commandments at the Oklahoma State Capitol.

“It’s really encouraging. It’s really moving. We do get a lot of messages that start out with the caveat, ‘You know I am a Christian.’ However, and they explain that they appreciate what we’re doing,” Lucien Greaves, a spokesperson for the Satanic Temple, told KWTV.

The New York City-based group proposed a 7-foot, goat-headed Baphomet figure to be placed on a stone slab, flanked by two smiling children, on the capitol grounds after a Republican lawmaker and conservative Christians were permitted to erect the monument to the Mosaic laws.

“It’s not a call to war against one side or the other, it’s actually a call for reconciliation to have a plurality of voices,” Greaves said. “There is no singular voice of the Oklahoman, you need to embrace the diversity of your population and see that no single politician’s view represents the entirety of the law abiding citizenry in Oklahoma.”

He said support for the monument, which he suggested would allow children to have their pictures taken on the figure’s lap for family fun, is growing by the day.

“We’ve gotten a lot of messages from people saying that they served or are serving in the armed forces, and they feel that these values are exactly what we fought for,” Greaves said.

KWTV spoke with several Oklahoma residents who agree.

“This is kind of what America was based on, freedom of religion. And for us to say whether you believe in it or not, that it shouldn’t be there, is kind of wrong,” said resident Bailee Boyce.

But others agree with some state lawmakers, who argue that Satanists should not be given the same treatment as Christians.

“Having little kids around it, that’s just ridiculous,” said Terry Hill, pastor of the Canadian County Cowboy Church. “I mean, don’t understand where they come from.”

Yukon resident Harold Harvey said he worried about the Satanic monument’s supporters.

“We hope every one of them gets saved because they’re going to live with Satan in a bad place for an eternity, and in my mind, that’s the worst thing that could happen,” Harvey said.

The Oklahoma City Capitol Preservation Commission has placed a moratorium on new monuments until a lawsuit over the Ten Commandments monument is resolved. Other groups, including PETA and the Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster, have petitioned for their own displays.

“We have to let this play out however it plays out, but we’ll keep pushing to make sure that it’s going ahead,” said Greaves, who submitted designs to the preservation commission.

The temple intends to create the monument even if its proposal is rejected.


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Comment by Kairan Nierde on January 28, 2014 at 11:49pm

Look, I think we should take every inch of public land and fill it up with monuments to every religion ever known. America, stay classy.

...Or, we could not put any religious monuments up. 

Comment by Davis Goodman on January 29, 2014 at 12:48am

I think an adequately funded and stocked library would be good too.

Comment by SteveInCO on January 29, 2014 at 10:39am

I enjoy the good mockery of religion just as much as the next fellow, but this Ten Commandments cluster fuck is so far beyond stupid that calling it stupid is an insult to stupid people. Take these idiotic things down. They should never have gone up on public land in the first place.

So now we have the spectacle of "Christians" (surely not extremely fundamentalist ones) being OK with this because it helps them put their fucking cheesy Decalogue out there.  Well at least these Xians seem to have some confidence that no one will take the satanic one seriously and suddenly start visiting the "high places."  (Their own damn book seems to indicate lots of people would fall off that wagon with regularity--one would think it would be easy not to.)

What I just love about the fight over ten commandments displays is the disingenuous argument "Well what's wrong with 'Thou Shalt Not Kill?'"  Strawman, big time; there's little wrong with it other than the fact that it's number seven in the list after five purely religious directives about how to prostrate before Yahweh, and one which really ought not be codified into law.  The problem isn't with "Thou Shalt Not Kill" but rather with "I am Yahweh Thy God and Thou Shalt Have No Other Gods Before Me" et. seq.

Comment by Diane on January 29, 2014 at 8:49pm

He said support for the monument, which he suggested would allow children to have their pictures taken on the figure’s lap for family fun, is growing by the day.

I wouldn't want to see a ridiculous display of a bunch of religious monuments on public land, but the above statement is awesome. 

Comment by Diane on January 30, 2014 at 6:12am

Well, ok, sure, but they're not going to be half as much fun as a goat-headed pagan god upon whose lap people can sit.  


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