Comment by Greg Gorey on August 1, 2010 at 12:28pm

As a spooky kid, the Anne Rice part makes he happy :)

Comment by Nelson on August 1, 2010 at 1:13pm

yeah, i was a fan of the Vampire Chronicles myself and i did a giant eye roll when she announced years ago she had returned to Christianity. still, i'm not sure how to take the news. she says she's left Christianity but is still a believer in and a follower of Jesus. ok. so she's left institutional Christianity, not Christianity per se. moreover, why leave Christianity at all when you can remain a Christian without all the things she finds objectionable by being a liberal Christian? whatever. still good to see anyone rejecting the pederast cult.
thanks as always for commenting Gregory! :)

Comment by Gaytor on August 1, 2010 at 2:52pm

I found a quote on the Sensud Divintatis interesting.

"in the typical case we don’t consciously choose to have those beliefs. Instead, we find ourselves with them, just as we find ourselves with perceptual and memory beliefs. (You don’t and can’t simply decide to have this belief, thereby acquiring it.) These passages suggest that awareness of God is natural, widespread, and not easy to forget, ignore, or destroy."

The Author, Plantinga and John Calvin seem to be wholly unaware that memories are reconstructions and not the same as hitting rewind and play. They will be rebuilt over time using information gathered after the experience.

"Their primary investigation suggests, further, that secondhand information can indeed exert a "backward framing" effect through the process of memory reconstruction." Link

In effect, the new acceptance of a god will throw on the rose colored glasses. So that time that I went down on a motorcycle at 115 mph, the hand of god cushioned the blow and not the soft soil, the bike frame or the helmet that got trashed. This reconstruction process can be seen culturally as well. In terms of Evangelicals, I can't recall how many times I've heard the story "God told me to move, I did, and it saved my life." So it wasn't the screeching tires or other inputs that told you to move? Nice reconstruction of the memory. I believe that you believe it, but that doesn't make it any more true than UFO abduction memories.

Thanks for the Service.

Comment by Nelson on August 1, 2010 at 2:56pm

well spotted there Gaytor. you're absolutely right i think. the notion of our capacity for memory as a video recorder that we can playback later with perfect fidelity to actual events has long been refuted.

thanks for the comment! glad you found something interesting to read. :)

Comment by Wesley on August 2, 2010 at 12:40am

Nelson,,, I really enjoyed reading Tobin, Tarico and Avalos's responces to their critics. Tobin especially hammered home ever single point and with multiple sources of legitimate academic support.

Comment by Nelson on August 2, 2010 at 12:44am

absolutely Wesley, whereas the authors at that Triablogue site aimed to refute The Christian Delusion they only gave the authors of The Christian Delusion more opportunities to point out just how bankrupt Christian faith is. complete backfire. good stuff.

thanks for the comment!

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