So a few nights ago, I told my best friend, who wants to be a Jesuit Priest, that I was an atheist, and we had a very long discussion about it. He isn't a science guy, and over the next few days, he told his science-minded friend, Will, (whose also my friend) about our discussion. This wasn't a big deal, I don't really care who he tells about it, it's not a huge secret.
Anyways, we all went out for dinner tonight, as kind of a last hurrah since I'm leaving for college and he's got another year of high school left. It was a good time, me, my friends girlfriend, and Will were all having a good time.
Soon, Will says "So I hear you don't believe in god." It was a little bit of a surprise, but we discussed and I have my reasons and it was friendly, for the most part. For the whole discussion, they acted as thought the word atheist was another way to say "evil" or "arrogant" that we know more. I was even told to make up my own thoughts, instead of just presenting evidence.

What really irks me, now that I've thought about the night some more, is that my best friend stereotyped me, and atheists. The first time I told him, he said he thought we are some of the most arrogant people on the planet. I let it slide, since it was the first discussion. Then tonight he when I was giving my shpeal, he said "keep going, I'm gonna need to know what the arguments are for when I run into assholes like you, not saying you're an asshole though" At the moment, I thought, ok well he doesn't think I'm an asshole (and he really doesn't)But now, thinking about it more, that was a major stereotype, and that arrogance one.

We're not assholes, we're pleasant people who'd rather believe in truth instead of a wishful thought.

that's all, just needed to vent a little.

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Comment by Doug Reardon on August 16, 2011 at 11:53am
Dude, I hope you find a better "Best Friend" sometime in your life!
Comment by Peter Metcalfe on August 16, 2011 at 3:50pm

Unbelievable. Your science-minded friend is very ignorant and rather stupid.

Comment by Kairan Nierde on August 19, 2011 at 1:50am

What a jerk.  He called you an asshole, no mistake.  It's just like bad mouthing your race and then saying, "but you're one of the good ones."


The arrogance stereotype is harsh.  Reminds me of my beloved Aunt's response to questions I had right before I became atheist:  "I wouldn't presume to know that.  There are some things we just can't know."  Basically: you're being arrogant and uppity, so cut it out.  I didn't know what to say either.  Intellectual honesty is not arrogance.


Comment by Rick on August 20, 2011 at 2:29pm

The fact that you were essentially told to make up your mind without evidence to support your decisions is absurd. That’s how we make decisions, we consider what we perceive to be evidence and then act based upon that evidence. Even the religious nuts do it. The bible is what they accept as evidence that informs their beliefs and actions. Your friend is an asshole and has no respect for you. His words reveal his true feelings about atheists… you included.


You’re now dealing with attacks on your character. Find out why he thinks atheists are arrogant assholes and address those issues directly. Simply holding a belief that there is no god does not qualify. Explain why and probe deeper. It sounds as if you didn’t attempt to address his claims. When you go into a “shpeal” that your friend wants to take notes on, that tells me that you’re simply presenting atheistic arguments that probably have little to no relevance the issue at hand.


Does that make sense? I’m not sure I’m articulating my thoughts clearly on this point.


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