The term comes from the world of English soccer and refers to the final stages of a competition when it is still all to play for and the tension prevents anyone from relaxing in their seats.

I have followed the U.S. election from the start. Here in Ireland the main (only) topic of conversation is “Trump or Clinton”? Most people are calling it for “Hilly C” as Katie Perry calls her. The consensus is that she has the experience and will be able to hold her own on the world stage. Trump is more like a grenade thrown into the political system but he is not the man to fix it.  I do think that Clinton will win but after the Brexit shock I think we will be hearing quite a bit of squeaking for the next few days.

So what is the atmosphere like in the States at the moment? Are you shifting about in your seats?

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Comment by _Robert_ on November 6, 2016 at 5:19pm

My area of Florida seems like "Trump town"....they are out in force.....

Comment by TJ on November 6, 2016 at 6:22pm

Its very regional.

If its where angry white men are a majority, its Trump all the way.

If its evangelicals/bible belted areas, also, a Trump majority.

If its republicans who can't vote for a dem...its stay home or vote independent.

Some dems don't like Hilly C, but, will vote for her so Trump doesn't win, or, vote Independent.

So, BOTH parties are going to lose votes to 3rd party tickets....and, off hand, more lost repubs than dems, but it could be close.

Most dems are not impressed by Ben Ghazi or emails as a problem, and most Trumpers are not impressed by Trump lying when his mouth moves as a they are going along party lines, with each side ignoring most of what mud the other party slung, and, forgiving their own side's gaffs, etc.

So, some places are Trump's, and, some Hillies, but, overall, if I had to guess, Hillie will squeak past at a minimum, and potentially landslide if things go even better.


A 49/51 -ish Hilly outcome would not be a shock though.


Comment by _Robert_ on November 6, 2016 at 6:28pm

This is sums it up....

"The Queen of Light took her bow
And then she turned to go,
The Prince of Peace embraced the gloom
And walked the night alone.
Oh, dance in the dark of night,
Sing to the morning light.
The dark Lord rides in force tonight
And time will tell us all.
Oh, throw down your plow and hoe,
Rest not to lock your homes.
Side by side we wait the might
Of the darkest of them all."

Comment by Pope Beanie on November 6, 2016 at 6:43pm

I've seen headlines about how the hispanic mail-in ballot turnout is 150% higher than ever before, pro-Clinton, and probably enough to make the difference. Also, the Clinton machine's been more organized at state levels, where the electoral votes matter because most states do rig their outcomes to favor their state power, instead of splitting the votes according to the popular ballots.

I've avoided the topic because sometimes it just seems hopeless and stressful. I won't predict now, other than to concede that 3rd parties aren't as popular as I expected. People are fickle, even in the last two weeks of a 1-1/2 year campaign.

Comment by Reg The Fronkey Farmer on November 6, 2016 at 7:42pm

I will be in a red part of Florida in about two weeks’ time. It is be an interesting visit, whichever way the result goes there. Clinton could still take Florida – Miami and areas like Tallahassee and the Latino and Hispanic vote will help – but I would not bet any money on it.

China will be happy to see Trump win as he will not exercise the same control over foreign policy as Clinton would and their influence will expand. They probably think they can do business with Trump but trying to hammer out trade taxes will not be easy. I think the respect America has a strong world leader will be greatly diminished if Trump wins. He already has hinted that he will get countries near China to pay for NATO support which will further strengthen Chinese expansionist ideas. He is too unstable and this will be how the world will come to view the U.S. He has no credible understanding of how diplomacy or foreign policy works. It won’t upset Russia either if he wins.

Comment by Belle Rose on November 6, 2016 at 11:30pm

Things in the US are horrible. Children who were not otherwise ever teased or bullied for being different are now suddenly being treated differently because of the atmosphere Trump has created. His hate mongering and whining and racist, mysogynistic bullshit has given license for many people to act like assholes, and all of the Republicans who supposedly denounced him ended up voting for him anyway, further enabling his tirade. He is a dangerous psychopath that needs to be locked up. Not given access to the red button.

I have a friend in the UK who will help me migrate if necessary. If Trump wins I am going to become an expat. I've said that from the beginning and I really mean it. A Trump presidency would spell absolute disaster for our nation in every way. I really didn't want to believe that he would win, but I always knew he would do whatever it took. And the words out of Giuliani's mouth said it all. Trump has many crooks working for him and I predict unfortunately that he is going to win. I REALLY hope I'm wrong. I hope that enough minority voters show up in the polls where it counts, but I don't think Hillary Clinton has endeared enough Bernie supporters and minorities to really be engaged in the election the way President Obama did 8 years ago. I don't see minorities lining the streets to vote. I think most of them are staying home. Meanwhile, every white male in the nation is voting for Trump....I honestly....think he's going to win. I don't think Hillary Clinton is liked very much and with good reason. Most people are seeing this election as, "Who is the lesser of the two evils?".......As much as I hate Trump, I'm not too thrilled with Hillary Clinton as President either. Yes she's a woman. That's great. But I have my own misgivings about her. 

I live in a Solid Democratic state and my vote won't count. Hillary will win in my neck of the woods. So to represent the 505 I'm voting for Gary Johnson. I just can't bring myself to vote for either of them.

Comment by Tom Sarbeck on November 7, 2016 at 11:28am

Meanwhile, every white male in the nation is voting for Trump....

Belle, I've been a white male for almost 86 years and I voted for Hillary.

Comment by Reg The Fronkey Farmer on November 7, 2016 at 1:01pm

I know of some white males who would have voted Republican but as there is no Republican candidate standing for election they were left with Hilly C. They are voting for her to stop Trump. All of them are annoyed and frustrated (even embarrassed) at the way the campaign was conducted.

Comment by Noon Alif on November 7, 2016 at 1:32pm
I think Though Trumph is bit stupid but he should win bcz Hillary got support from Arab criminals they will use her to fight more wars & situation would be more disgusting. On the other side i support women Imporverment she should win this election .. sorry i am very confuse right now
Comment by Daniel W. on November 7, 2016 at 1:42pm

Definitely a squeaky bum time for me.  I have never taken for granted that Clinton would win. Similar to the Bradley Effect, where it seemed like Los Angeles voters told pollsters they would vote for African American candidate Ed Bradley for mayor, but then voted for the white candidate.  Clinton, of course, is not black, but she is a woman and a lot of people might be embarrassed to say they support Trump because of all of his negatives, even though when they get into the voting booth, they might vote for him anyway.

My state has mail-in ballots and I voted last week.  I went all-Democrat.  Even though Washington State is overall Democrat, my district has a Tea Party Republican as Congressional Representative.  I voted for her opponent.  My town is also changing demographically, with more upscale younger residents.  That might swing the local vote as well.

As for the Trump Juggernaut, I was pretty horrified that the FBI chief chimed in at almost the last minute with more innuendo about emails.  That, and other FBI leaks, had me wondering if some agents and officers of the FBI are trying to act as their own shadow government, with goal to manipulate the election.  It has also been incredibly unfair - massive releases of emails, primarily via wikileaks, regarding inside operations of Clintons, but almost info about inside opereations of Trump.  That's not because the Trumpies have all been innocent little boy scouts.   It looks like the Russian govt. is also involved with Trump, at least with underhanded support of email hacking and wikileaks, if no overt support.  Even there, it's not clear.

In the end, there have been so many lies and so much tribalism, I don't think the damage will be easy to heal.  The fact is, the US is still a powerful nation, probably the most powerful in the world, with unprecedented technological advancement and near-unprecedented social advancement, despite those many left behind and despite economic polarization and profiteering.  The Obama years have improved the economy significantly, following the wreakage of the Bush years.  I suspect Clinton will help economically and with the country's standing internationally, whereas Trump will ruin us in so many ways.   He's left a poisoned atmosphere everywhere, he has legitimized the Breitbart right wing lie machine, and he's promoted know-nothing-ism.  Under Trump, I would expect a reversal of social progress, a more reactionary presence in Supreme Court, enboldened local governments making more excuses for police violence, and increased graft and corruption.  Not that Clinton is an angel, but I do think her underlying political philosophy is to benefit the working people and create more fairness in general.

I don't really think Clinton is as bad as even her Democratic detractors say.  It's true she's a politician, and it's true that she's become very wealthy.   I feel like many Democrats took their philosophy about Clinton from the first 14 seconds of this Riddick clip-

The campaign has been tiresome, disillusioning, annoying, irritating, polarizing, and has poisoned our dialogues. The main players are like spoiled, privileged, brats. It makes me wish that China still had re-education camps. I can name some politicians and other politicos that I would like to send there.


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