Religious guy tried to convert me and a few friends in a Tim Hortons parking lot - very annoying.

While out on a motorcycle ride with my friend Andrea and her cousin Daniel we happened to stop off at a local coffee shop to have a coffee, chat and take a rest, Somehow the discussion of being Atheist came up. Andrea and I are both Atheists, Daniel considers himself catholic but he is gay so he says he believes but doesn't really agree with the religion.


Anyways we were chatting away about this topic inside the coffee shop and decided to go outside and hang out next to our bikes when all of a sudden this random young guy dressed up like he just came from church (it's tuesday) came over and said "Oh hey, I overheard you guy's were talking about religion in there and I would just like to see whats up?"

so being nice I said I'm Atheist but I was raised Catholic but I respect anyone's religious choice.


Then OMG this guy wouldn't shut up, he went on about Bible Versus, Creationism, How the bible is real FACT and how science is lying to us, I just let him talk while Andrea was sitting on her bike behind him laughing her ass off.. I actually zoned out for most of it

Then he started to get right stupid, talking about how if the earth was 10ft in either direction from the sun we would either freeze of fry, trying to convince us that god crated it for us, so I told him that Actoually the distance fluctuates about 5 million km so 10 feet would not matter.


then he started talking about how people with no faith would just do what they want and everyone would get murdered and raped, then stated that ever since they started teaching evolution (like what, a few hundred years ago?) there has been a steady increase in murders, rapes, the amount of people in jail because of the people not believing in god because of evolution teachings..

So I said, well maybe that has to do with the population increasing, and if you google the religious population of jails you will find that atheists make up almost none of the population while Christians and other religions make up nearly ALL of the population.. So his comeback to that was "Well, most of the information on the internet is lies anyways"


There was so much more, just imagine that you take every rage comic about stupid things religious people say in arguements, this guy pretty much covered it all.


throughout the whole thing I was being very nice and polite to him, I even shook his hand when he was done and told him it was nice talking to him..

but really, he kept us for nearly 30 min spouting off the most ridiculous things about creationism, "fact" of the bible and why it can't be wrong.

I doubt he was no older than 25.. too late to free that mind since it's already brainwashed to the max, I didn't even bother trying, I just listened and threw in a comment whenever I had a chance to speak..

I wish I was better at conversing with people or I would have just told him how he's wrong about everything, Ahh, sometimes I hate being polite..

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Comment by Seth Jon Nonnemaker on June 14, 2011 at 10:10pm
That guy sounds an ignorant bigot. I have a big problem with him saying "ever since they started teaching evolution there has been a steady increase in murders, rapes, the amount of people in jail because of the people not believing in god because of evolution teachings.." even though if all the Atheists in the USA died, we would lose 93% of the National Academy of Sciences but less than 1% of the prison population. I probably would not have been able to hold my composure as well as you did. I probably would have been kind of nice but I would have definitely called him out of some stuff from the Exodus (even though its fiction) and contradicts from the Bible (also fiction).
Comment by Akshay Bist on June 14, 2011 at 10:43pm
Man you're too polite. I used to be the same way, but slowly I'm changing. These days, I would have just told him - "Thank you for wasting 30mins of my life, that I'll never get back. Recycle that dusty old rag that you call the truth & go read a science book."
Comment by Iva Galvez on June 14, 2011 at 10:56pm
I live in conservative small town in rural Oregon, and I deal with people like this on a daily basis. I love my college, but it has more Christian groups than any other college campus I've seen. I have absolutely no issue stating that I am an Atheist, and I have dealt with the same backlash and preaching that you have encountered. I used to be polite about it, but the older I get, the more I have decided to engage in arguments and state my opinion. Nothing that anybody has said to me has been groundbreaking, and it is all the same arguments I have heard before. Next time don't hold back! There are more Atheists in my town, but I am one of the few that admits it loud and proud! Hope youre next coffee break goes over more smoothly! :D
Comment by Doug Reardon on June 15, 2011 at 12:54am
I just ask them to "take your delusions to someone more credulous than me."
Comment by Peter on June 15, 2011 at 1:11am
"Well, most of the information on the internet is lies anyways"
Right there, you can tell he is full of lies...

You handled it very well. If it were me, i would have started fighting fire with fire and say BS like "You know you're going to hell for saying the internet is full of lies... God created the internet. See you in hell."
Comment by Kairan Nierde on June 15, 2011 at 2:22am
lol peter
Comment by Jon van Rooyen on June 15, 2011 at 3:55am

Christianity: Possibly the largest and oldest pyramid scheme in the world. :)

Perhaps that would be a good response to someone who tries to convert you; "I'm sorry, but I don't do pyramid schemes". hehe

Comment by Christoffel Jacobus Bezuidenhout on June 15, 2011 at 4:46am
Hey man, you handled it the right way. Some minds are closed. He felt he needed to say something and he did. You listened. That to me is the right mindset. Listen to what everybody says, think about it and then decide it's validity. We as atheists should not fall in the same traps as the Religious. Obviously he was wrong but you listened and that's important.
Comment by Derek on June 15, 2011 at 5:05am

I salute you. 30 mins! How did you manage that? I would of refuted each of his lies, one by one. 

Polite is great but firmness is required too, as I've often regretted letting lies go unnoticed for the sake of polite discourse, i.e. just for the sake of not rocking the boat. But nowadays I rock the boat until it turns over.

Comment by Robert Karp on June 15, 2011 at 9:02am
so I told him that Actoually the distance fluctuates about 5 million km so 10 feet would not matter.
This was great Bobby!! You handled it like a pro! So much fun!


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