Hello everyone.

Well for before the holiday I requested that the theists in my family not give my children who are under the age of 4 religious gifts. Well they gave them "jesus crap" anyways. Which pissed me off a lot. So I made digital copies of the god delusion and put them in their mail boxes. My relatives were upset that I had done this thing and they all said something like "How dare you disrespect my belief by force feeding your beliefs" to which I replied "How the fuck do you think I feel when you do the same to my small children?"  Then thy said "well thats different"

How the fuck is that different!!!??? It's the exact same thing. At least I gave it to them and not their children. My boys are 3 and 1/2 and 18 months. I dont need them to think they are "lost" or "going to hell" because we dont go to church or adhere to any religion!!!!



P.S. sorry I know I am venting but I needed to get it off my chest.

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Comment by Ben on December 27, 2010 at 1:16pm
Thats how I felt on xmas day when I was asked to say the blessing over dinner. I declined of course but its still sucks.
Comment by Andrew Bergstrom on December 27, 2010 at 1:40pm

This is merely the religious folk trying to save you in their own demented way. Much like some women will attach themselves to a guy because the see them as "broken" and make it their mission to "fix" them. Those of us whom have chosen through careful thought to throw off the religious blindfold and follow the path of the stark truth of Atheism are not broken, and we do not need to be converted or anything else. Deep down behind these annoying tendencies is a good person trying to follow their heart and deluded beliefs to help you, and especially your "innocent children." However, if you have already given fair warning to these misguided fools then you have every right to give them both barrels and with interest. If by confronting them with extreme prejudice doesn't get the point across then perhaps it is time to go for the next step which is excommunication. If they will not respect your beliefs, then there is nothing further to discuss until they climb down off their personal crosses and build a bridge over themselves. Respect is a two way street, and if they are unyielding in their antisocial behavior then they can expect either your specific attention to reveal the truth to their children (or worse-Preach Paganism!) or stony silence. You have nothing to apologize here or anywhere for your belief, and I hope that you will turn to your peers here when you need some intelligent conversation.

Comment by Jabu M on December 27, 2010 at 4:48pm
It's the same as how they always tell these mission stories of people who have been ostracised by their families because of their beliefs, then go on to alienate their own kids when they turn from their religion. So damn hypocritical, but they feel as if it's somehow their right to do it.
Comment by Hillary Spencer on December 27, 2010 at 4:49pm
well James if it was a gift to me I prolly would sick it on a shelf and forget about it.....but I asked just for the holiday no jesus crap and they feel since I am an atheist that someone must save my kids in the hopes of saving me and my husband. I respect their right to believe in god they choose. they should also respect the fact that I dont and buy the kids a coloring book or something.
Comment by Miles on December 27, 2010 at 8:05pm
Good for you for standing up to them!
Comment by Cathleen Sessions on December 27, 2010 at 10:01pm

My kids at that age would never have received the gifts until I had checked them out.  Then I would have sent them back with a 'Thanks but No Thanks'. 


Your kids are at an age when you can censor their gifts and mail.  You are the parent.  You have a right to defend your kids from what you believe is harmful. 


From now on do not let your kids open or receive gifts from these people until you have checked them out.  If they get offended too bad.  It is obvious that they do not respect you.

Comment by Hillary Spencer on December 27, 2010 at 10:14pm
Thats what I am thinking I am going to have to do next yr Cathleen.
Comment by Reg The Fronkey Farmer on December 27, 2010 at 10:35pm

Good advice from Cathleen. I won't say anything else because I get to angry. Glad you said Enough !!

Comment by James on December 27, 2010 at 10:56pm

Bravo for standing up to them. It's sad that they can't see that they are doing the exact same thing that they are mad at you for doing. They forced their belief (even after you requested they don't), so you returned in kind.


What are you going to do with the Jesus crap? I'd probably just rash it, but the idea of giving it back to them is also quite tempting. (Just like writing a disclaimer in a hotel room Bible. lol)


My nephew got three Bible related books, which irritated me. Some vegitales 'god made you special book', my first 100 bible words, and a Noah storybook. My hope is that they meet a premature end since he ripped up his Dr Seuss book.


I did give my (semi-closet) Atheist brother-in-law a copy of Religulous. He borrowed my copy once and loved it. So it looks like I have at least one other person I can get freethinker gifts for. Luckily his mom was oblivious to what I git him though.


My dad still refuses to get me anything Atheistic (my family makes up a want list from which we buy from). Not even a book on evolution... My wife did get me the 'Evolving Darwin play set' and a set of scientist figures (Darwin, Einstein, Newton and Tesla), fossil field guide  and amber with a midge in it though.


I say trash the gifts or return the gifts to them. Heck, if it were me the wouldn't have left the house without them or them seeing me trash them.

Comment by Jarrod Payne on December 28, 2010 at 12:33am

I have no kids but i would be livid!!! Its just disrespectful and its worse when they aim it at your kids with the assumption that children are more malleable and therefore easier targets.


Like Ben I was asked to do the prayer this year which i also refused but the same people bought me the greatest show on earth so cant complain too much.


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