How much proof does someone need to prove that another person is being inappropriate (in a sexual manner) at work?  Where exactly is the line?  Just wondering ...

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Comment by Robyn on May 23, 2013 at 7:17pm

"And what if it wasn't a customer, what if it's a coworker..." (is what I meant)

Comment by Unseen on May 23, 2013 at 8:02pm

So basically you're recognizing that there are different rules in different situations. 

I was basically talking about different rules regarding attire. Obviously a cocktail server on the casino floor in a very short skirt is not just okay but may be the dress code. However, in an office setting it'd be a no go.

Comment by Robyn on May 23, 2013 at 8:06pm

Right.  My question was not answered...still wondering where the line is for anyone working for tips....and where's the line if it were a coworker?

Comment by Unseen on May 23, 2013 at 8:21pm

As for the cocktail server, I guess you'd have to define bad behavior. I wouldn't expect her to have to endure boob or ass grabs or other uncalled for invasions of her person and personal space, but at the same time she probably wants to sell as many drinks as she legally can and knows that some compromises may be necessary, such as well-intended comments on her appearance. A woman who can't deal with some comments on her appearance probably isn't a top candidate for wearing a sexy outfit while selling drinks. The company needs to protect the employee but at the same time it's her job to market drinks and if a little flirtatious banter serves the purpose, it's part of her job. 

I have a friend who did some food service (some call it "waitressing") and she told me she learned on advice from coworkers that playing along a bit with some flirting combined with putting her hands on the shoulder or arm of male customers would get her larger tips. I imagine the girl working the casino floor taking drink orders learns much the same.

Comment by Robyn on May 23, 2013 at 8:24pm

So, where is the line for the blackjack dealer and the cocktail server?

Comment by Robyn on May 23, 2013 at 8:26pm

Blackjack dealer wants tips too, doesn't want the high roller to much is too much.  Or if they are getting harassed by a manager sexually....blackjack or cocktail server.

Comment by Unseen on May 23, 2013 at 8:28pm

I don't know. Do you? How much should be left to her and how much should be up to management in terms of the behavior of customers and what a server is expected to tolerate. I don't think there's a universal standard but I can certainly think of things no female casino employee shouldn't be expected to tolerate, such as the old "How much for a f*ck?"

Comment by Unseen on May 23, 2013 at 8:34pm

As for sexual harrassment by a manager, that is intolerable and illegal. If the company won't address it, she should take it to the outside authorities AND look for another job. 

Comment by Robyn on May 23, 2013 at 8:35pm

No, I'm not.  In food and beverage, it's usually a flirty environment on and off the floor, but being a card dealer, we don't flirt with our managers the same...

Comment by Robyn on May 23, 2013 at 8:37pm

Just wondering where the line stands with customer and manager.


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