I caught this documentary the other day:



Flock of Dodos, about the intelligent design v. evolution debate raging in our school boards. It is pro-evolution, but also paints a melancholy picture of the evolution side, and why we are "Losing" on the public relations front (sort of). Although I want to add that we won in Kansas, Pennsylvania, and Ohio, and not sure about the other places, I know we lost Georgia (sort of) and Texas.

This got me thinking about science in general. I would like to preface this question with the fact that 39% of the American population believe in evolution http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2009/02/12/4427408-poll-just-3... and, quite frankly, with the stronghold of truth and methodological naturalism, why can't scientists persuade enough people? This also goes for the global climate change debate. Why haven't we gone away from debate about whether it is true or not, to properly educating people about the subject and finding more about our biology? And how are people so caught up by, "Teach the Controversy" rhetoric? I understand the religious perspective of the argument (that is the Kent Hovind, Ken Ham side of the debate/it goes against god's/christian beleifs structure), but what about the legitimate non-religious people? I don't want to assume none exist, but maybe their are non-religious, non-spiritual/atheist people who are not entirely convinced about evolution being true. What do they have to say about the issue? And, would I be stepping out of line if I were to assume their main objection with scientists is, "Scientists are arrogant"?


Time For My Brief Life Update:

So I am currently having bemused thoughts. On one end, C++ is going really well ! I got a 107% on the mid-term, so needless to
say I am enjoying the class and am fully understanding what is going on
(atleast up to chapter 5: loops). Work has
been ehh as usual, and my dating life has went from turbulent to abruptly ending, something about not wanting to be in a relationship, which I take as, "I dont want a relationship with you" ). The worst part is, she too was an atheist mathematician, and we got along very well! So I am surprised this wont go any further than it did. But this allows me to reflect on why I am or, perhaps, why I am not ready for a relationship. I have wondered what I would say, if she did call me back, but I try not to dwell on that too much. The best bet is to move on, and cross that bridge if it comes.

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Comment by Jānis Ķimsis on June 15, 2010 at 4:44pm
Why can't scientists persuade people about science? Because they tell them the truth of what science reveals about the world, and since it doesn't involve us being the centre of the universe, having a celestial babysitter and immortality, most people just don't want to listen.
Comment by Jake W. Andrews on June 16, 2010 at 12:50am
Janis,

I am not sure if it is their position that they dont want to listen. Take the rare example of the atheist who does not think global climate change exists, I know they exist, because the last mid-michigan atheist/humanist meetup I went to, the host was a climate change denier. I think a rarer case is the atheist who does not think evolution is a plausible theory/fact. I am unconvinced their character flaw is bad listening skills. As the need for religion to explain natural phenomenon dwindles, there is still an alarming rate of people who dont believe in evolution. Although, I do think you have hit on a great point, "It [science] doesnt involve us being the centre of the universe or having a celestrial [god] present". I think the deep issue is fear. Perhaps fear of letting go of old world traditions, fear of human imperfections guiding society (which is a hilarious notion). So the next bigger question, is: How/why have the science "deniers" become so afraid? and why/how do they use religion/theology as an enabler of their fear or as an excuse to be fearful?

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