I was reading this article, and became curious about this statement:
'"To say something along the lines of 'I'm an atheist; I think religions are not all bad' has become a dramatically peculiar thing to say and if you do say it on the internet you will get savage messages calling you a fascist, an idiot or a fool. This is a very odd moment in our culture. Why has this happened?"'
http://www.newstatesman.com/religion/2012/02/neo-atheism-atheists-d...
So, I was curious about the opinions of other atheists on this question. I won't reveal my own answer for now, to try to avoid bias, but I'd like to know the answer to this question. Feel free to reply in the comments.
Here's my formulation of the question.
If you're an atheist, do you think all religions are entirely bad?
Again, reply yes or no in the comments, and feel free to elaborate if you like. I'll tally the answers.
Thanks!
John
Comment by Kris Feenstra on March 4, 2012 at 7:22pm As a direct answer to the question: no, I do not think all religions are entirely bad.
Do I think any religions are good? No. While I do not think that all religions are harmful, I don't ever see religion as an asset in itself.
Most things aren't all bad, but I don't see much good in religion that couldn't be achieved in another way. Religion might occasionally keep someone from stealing my car or something, but it's not much of a trade for the war, homophobia, anti-science, etc.
Comment by Simon Bennett on March 4, 2012 at 8:42pm Of course not. Jainism for one.
Comment by AMR on March 4, 2012 at 9:03pm No not necessarily. People twist their beliefs into what they think their God wants or demands. Its hateful ignorant people that corrupt religion and pass it off as their Gods belief. Some interpret religious beliefs and try to do positive things while other will pervert those same beliefs and do harm. If the world was free from religion there would still be violence,wars,insanity, etc. We would just find new reasons to kill/hate each other. Although religion maybe ridiculous from a logical standpoint it can produce good things. If we want to rid the world of religion why not guns? They can kill and hurt people or cars thousands of people die from that? Or course that's ridiculous but the point I am trying to get at is no matter what, some humans can turn anything into a negative thing to harm or destroy one another. There will still be terrorism, Hitlers, Bin Ladens, rape, discrimination even if the world was rid of religion.
Comment by dermot heaney on March 4, 2012 at 9:25pm NO, I think 'bad' is putting it too harshly. They're of great comfort to many people. A lot of what they teach is positive and peaceful.
Comment by James Klaver on March 4, 2012 at 9:27pm
Comment by Heather Spoonheim on March 4, 2012 at 9:33pm Although I'm an Atheist, I think I'm more of an anti-supernaturalist. I think all supernatural beliefs/systems are 'bad'. If a 'religion' made no supernatural claims then I would judge it for its dogma. To date, I've seen no supernatural system that I feel has a net positive effect on society (in a modern sense).
Comment by Mith Barnes on March 4, 2012 at 9:51pm It's not a simple yes or no, I'm afraid. I suppose the best way to answer this is to say that I think religion (like any mythology) CAN be a source of allegory, creative thought, evocative imagery, and even inspiration. This applies equally to Greek myth, Celtic myth, Norse myth, and to Christianity. All are part of our human story, and all can and should be studied, understood, appreciated for their good points. I have, for example, a tremendous affection for the quirks and indiosyncracies of medieval devotion (it's an area I do a lot of research in). I stand in awe of the great Gothic cathedrals, and the profundity and complexity of their religious meaning. I feel the same about the ancient synagogues of Beth Alpha and Hammat Tiberius , however. And Macchu Picchu. And the Parthenon.
However, when taken literally, any mythology, however uplifting, however benign, becomes toxic. It's not so much religion as it is religious belief that I find harmful. The moment one chooses to take the allegory for the real, reality itself loses meaning, and anything can be held as true. And when such certainty is based on something that cannot be proven, it seems to become necessary that for the believer to be right, all others must be wrong. With the stakes set as high as eternal survival, persecution or oppression of those who are 'wrong' becomes all too easy.
Comment by Xu Wang on March 4, 2012 at 10:15pm Religion can be a force for good, and it can bring great comfort to people (though it can be argued that that comfort comes with the cost of delusion). However, the net effect has been "bad", to put it simply. I think this quote from Steven Weinberg sums up my feelings on this topic perfectly.
"Religion is an insult to human dignity. With or without it you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion."
Comment by Greg Gorey on March 4, 2012 at 10:29pm If someone thinks that Buddhism is incorrect as Mormonism, then they are just being silly. Buddhists don't believe in free-will or a substantial self. Several of the larger schools (Zen/Cha'an) don't believe in God. The only deal breaker is Karma and not all Buddhists interpret it in such a way that entails an afterlife or supernaturalism. I am of the belief that one can be a Buddhist without believing in anything supernatural.
Contrast that with Mormons who have to believe in everything in the Bible and then another book, which is much more outrageous. If they didn't believe in God, Jesus, souls, the afterlife, etc... etc..., then the whole religion falls apart.
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