Comment by Arcus on August 26, 2011 at 7:38pm

You don't get respect, you deserve it through hard work and accomplishments. Most religious people just want to take a shortcut, and we, as it appears, are assholes for pointing this fact out to their faces. Apparently, we also have to respect their beliefs because "all opinions should be treated equal" and other bullshit arguments. Fuck that.

 

Comment by oneinfinity on August 26, 2011 at 7:53pm

I concur.

Comment by Patrick Gray on August 26, 2011 at 8:43pm

Arcus.... respectfully, the same can be said of atheists.  You demand that your opinions be heard yet very seldom take the time to listen to the opinions of others because you have already dismissed them.

Comment by Arcus on August 26, 2011 at 8:57pm

I don't and I do.

Unlike religious people,I don't demand respect if I am not somehow proven, at least by common sense and logic. For instance, if a God materialized on Earth and started dictating laws, I'd probably be inclined to become a Christian. Or Muslim/Hindu/Pagan/etc depending on the proclivities of the deity. Not taking someone's casual word for something which has no tangible evidence, at least as measured by a cursory Google search, is not exactly unreasonable.

A shred of evidence convinces me. Yelling loudly and repeatedly does not.

Comment by Rick on August 26, 2011 at 9:47pm

@Partick: it appears that atheists don’t take time to listen to other’s opinions simply because we’ve heard them all before and have come to the conclusion (based on research) that the opinion in question is invalid.

How many times does one need to hear Pascal’s wager, the Comfort banana theory, or some nut defending a statement by saying “because it’s in the bible” before we’re allowed to dismiss it as rubbish? If an argument was unable to hold its ground upon first hearing it, what makes you think repeated assaults by the same nonsense will be any more successful?

Comment by Hobert Church on August 26, 2011 at 10:59pm

@RIck: exactly my point.  All of these arguments are tired and have been debated until both sides already know the outcome when they come up in a discussion.  It's not arrogance to dismiss an argument that has been disproven or at least shown to be illogical.

-Scarecrow

Comment by Joseph on August 26, 2011 at 11:37pm

Hobert, not to be an asshole or anything, but there actually is no "physical" (or medical) benefit to cutting off one's foreskin. Its all just more cruel, needless mythology.

Comment by Dustin on August 26, 2011 at 11:47pm

Joseph , many women find a circumsized penis to be more attractive and more fun to give oral to.  If that isn't reason enough!!  

Comment by Patrick Gray on August 27, 2011 at 12:27am

@Rick, how many times have you dismissed a Christian as an uninformed "nutcase" before they have ever spoken a word?

The fact of the matter is that these are at face value "opinions". Atheists are just as guilty as Christians for arguing opinions as fact. The Christian buzzword is "faith", the atheist buzzword is "critical thinking". Atheists can no more disprove the existence of something they claim not to believe in than a Christian can prove something that at its essence is faith.

Comment by Dustin on August 27, 2011 at 12:41am

@Patrick , LOL 

 

Sir , you don't need to disprove the Tooth Fairy to ridicule someone who believes in her.  You don't need to disprove Invisible Unicorns to suggest it might be an irrational idea to believe they exist. 

 

It is on the Christians to PROVE their magical and invisible entity exists.  Until then , it's the same as an invisible unicorn or the Tooth Fairy.  So no , critical thinking is not at all the same as Faith.  Faith comes to conclusions without evidence.  Critical thinking USES evidence to either come to a conclusion or decide there is not enough evidence to decide either way or to say the conclusion probably isn't valid.  

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