I had another debate... this time with a new world creationist I think they're called. He thinks the Earth is 6000 years old. Six thousand years old... great. He was firm on that too, claiming that there is hard scientific evidence for it and he saw that evidence on some DVD's that he has where christian scientists explain why this is true. Right, and I'm a talking snake that seduced Adam's rib.

I told him about Carbon-14 tests and all of the studies and finding archeologist, geologists, etc... He then said that Carbon-14 tests are unreliable AND that if we were millions of years old why weren't we already flying in cars and all that. I explained evolution, then he said that evolution is just a mere theory not based on facts just assumptions and I said so are all the religions in the world. That shut him up for a while... then he said that the 6000 years is a maybe, and we could be instead 12000 years old but NEVER millions of years old. His logic is as flawed as his God, sadly. Then I just made simple math: 2000 - 6000 = 4000BC. So using his logic, the Sumerian alphabet, the wheel, the irrigation systems and all that (discovered around 4000BC) happened either the same day, week, month or year. And still using his logic, those civilizations created that the same day "God" created them.

Absurd... After that he never talked to me again, I really didn't give a single fuck and I was happy with my work.

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Tags: Creationism, atheist, debate

Comment by Mabel on April 4, 2012 at 12:40pm

Good job. Maybe the idiot will stop and think. And that's a big maybe.

Comment by Scott Howard on April 4, 2012 at 10:51pm
Sounds like he was reading Chick tracs.
Comment by Wesley on April 4, 2012 at 11:16pm

Here's an excellent rebuttal from someone who is still a christian..http://www.answersincreation.org/whyileft.htm about why he left young earth creationism and became old earth.   Its an interesting read....and makes the young earth creationists very nervous.

Comment by Darrell Mont on April 5, 2012 at 2:51am

"Evolution is JUST a theory" drives me freakin insane!!! The next time you hear that, agree with the xian completely and when they feel that they have won, tell them the definition of the word theory... "a statement or statements, generally assumed to be true that explain an observable phenenon." YES evolution is just that and it has no competing theories. You might also include that creation is a conjecture, "A statement or an idea which is unproven, but is thought to be true; a guess. (Wiki)

Comment by Diane on April 5, 2012 at 6:39am

The last time my coworker George went into that nonsense I directed him here:

 http://www.answersingenesis.org/get-answers/topic/arguments-we-dont...

What could he say?  It's a site from which his pastor is currently teaching.  Gotcha.

Comment by Diane on April 5, 2012 at 6:50am

I told a lady recently that I "know" that a certain outcropping of granite and quartz in the nearby  mountains is 4.6 billion years old because of scientific evidence, just as she "knows" God exists because she can 'feel' his presence in her.  She dismissed my argument but maintained hers is valid.  Really, she didn't even come close to getting the analogy.  She's not stupid, either, just indoctrinated.

She says I'm close-minded, stubborn, and defiant.  I say I'm not - I just don't put my faith in  things that make no sense to me.  I say, "Show me the proof."   She says, "Look in the Bible..."  And around and around it goes.  I think she's given up for now.  

I'm not trying to deconvert her.  I just want her to acknowledge my position without dismissing it or damning me to an eternity without God.  She can't!  I can say to her, "You may end up being right, but I really don't believe it.  It is possible that I am wrong."

She can't say that.  In my mind, I win!

Comment by Miguel Espigares on April 5, 2012 at 7:16am

I don't think it's worth the effort to reason with hardcore religious types. I've heard statements like: "If God doesn't exist, then who's holding up the planets?" and "If Man came from monkeys, then why have they stopped coming out?"

Don't argue with idiots, they bring you down to their level and then beat you with experience.

I love this God that sits around doing nothing for a period of infinity and then suddenly, His one and only project lasts 6000 years. After which He will celebrate His achievements for infinity again.  What a mindless loser.

Comment by Olle Lyn on April 5, 2012 at 8:50am

 

I was attending University while living in the "bible belt".  Just to piss my arrogant professor off, I did my final thesis on why creationism is an ass crap crazy theory.  He hated my logic, but couldn't refute my research methodology and begrudgingly gave me an A.  Win!

(I still have the paper and am tempted to post the synopsis in my blog.  One day I may be brave enough to do it.) 

Comment by Suzanne Olson-Hyde on April 5, 2012 at 10:10am

Xians and young earthians don't want - or can't - acknowledge theyy may be wrong - it is the only thing they have to hold on to. They cannot believe if they are good, they will go to heaven. One will never convince the hard core with logic.

By the by Olle, love to read your thesis.

Comment by Reg The Fronkey Farmer on April 5, 2012 at 1:28pm

A reply to those who say they don’t belief in Evolution  - it is not a matter of belief  - it is not a matter of faith. It is only a matter of understanding.

 

If you take the time to research it you will understand it and it becomes self evident that not only is it true, it is beyond any form of dispute. It is a theory, not in the sense that it is still just an hypothesis but in the sense that that it is a “law” of modern science reached with the peer reviewed consensus of 99.9% of all respectable scientists.

 "and on the eight day god buried all the fossils…”

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