Oh no! don't abort your baby! [facebook rambling]

Ok, so first of all this was posted by a dear friend of mine, who just so happens to be uber Christian. A few years back, she had a lot of problems getting pregnant and once she did, she miscarried. It was a very sad time for her and her family and I feel bad for any couple who has to go through this...but...after extensive medical treatments and what not, "god" blessed her with 2 beautiful twin girls. Now, this is just one thing I don't have the guts to call her out on...[mainly because she so darn nice]... She believes that Yahweh helped her have the 2 twins...I say, according to her belief, God gave her messed up ovaries and SCIENCE corrected the problem...mmm some intelligent design...

 

So, she posted something about abortion that really irked my nerves.

 

My friend: There are other options rather than aborting a baby you can give it up for adoption there are many women who can't get pregnant on their own and would love the opportunity to have a baby. I use to be one of those women who couldn't get pregnant until God blessed me with 2 beautiful little girls.

 

The foward she shared that read:

 

 A worried woman went to her gynecologist and said: 

'Doctor, I have a serious problem and desperately need your help! My baby is not even 1 year old and I'm pregnant again. I don't want kids so close together. 

So the doctor said: 'Ok and what do you want me to do?' 

She said: 'I want you to end my pregnancy, and I'm counting on your help with this.' 

The doctor thought for a little, and after some silence he said to the lady: 'I think I have a better solution for your problem. It's less dangerous for you too.' 

She smiled, thinking that the doctor was going to accept her request. 

Then he continued: 'You see, in order for you not to have to take care 2 babies at the same time, let's kill the one in your arms. This way, you could rest some before the other one is born. If we're going to kill one of them, it doesn't matter which one it is. There would be no risk for your body if you chose the one in your arms.

The lady was horrified and said: 'No doctor! How terrible! It's a crime to kill a child! 

'I agree', the doctor replied. 'But you seemed to be OK with it, so I thought maybe that was the best solution.'

The doctor smiled, realizing that he had made his point. 

He convinced the mom that there is no difference in killing a child that's already been born and one that's still in the womb.

The crime is the same!

If you agree, please SHARE. Together we can help save precious lives! 

"Love says I sacrifice myself for the good of the other person. Abortion says I sacrifice the other person for the good of myself..."

Jesus sacrificed Himself for the good of sinners! That's perfect love!

<I received this as an e-mail and post it on FB>

 

 

Ok, first of all, if my doctor said that to me, I would report him and promptly find a new doctor. The vindictive me would probably write a blog about it and make sure everyone in town knew just how insensitive this doctor is. 

The point is, if a women comes into a doctor's office and asks for an abortion, if the doctor doesn't want to do it, he should refer her to someone that will. Belief systems should not factor into this situation. 

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Tags: Christianity, abortion, facebook

Comment by Walter Maki on April 28, 2011 at 4:19pm

Belief systems should not factor into this situation.

 

Exactly!

Comment by enlightenmentisntsoscary on April 28, 2011 at 4:50pm

@ Brian M

Who are you to judge someone's reasons? No woman should be pregnant if she doesn't want to be.

 

@scarlette

I love your observation about "god" gave her the messed up ovaries and science helped her... RIGHT?!

Comment by Jordan Leigh on April 28, 2011 at 5:01pm

"you can give it up for adoption there are many women who can't get pregnant on their own and would love the opportunity to have a baby"

 

Didn't you mention that this woman went through fertility treatments in order to become pregnant? Why didn't she adopt a baby, since she was one of those "women who can't get pregnant on her own and would love the opportunity to have a baby"?

Comment by Scarlette Blues on April 28, 2011 at 5:46pm

Yeah, I can't stand to see people who go to great lengths to achieve health (or in this case, produce a baby) say it was all some mythical god's great work. If I'm not mistaken, your so-called god put you on this earth as you are...and what about all those women who couldn't have kids BEFORE fertility treatments were made available? Is that part of "God's Plan"? .... Humanity has defied this "intelligent designer" with medical science.

 

@Jordan- That's something I have never understood. I've always said that if for some reason I couldn't get pregnant, I wouldn't go through the treatments. I would adopt. When I was a Christian, I said that was part of God's plan for my life....Now, I see it as helping humanity survive another generation :) but it just seems more logical than anything. Why try that hard to make your own baby when there are so many kids out there without a home?

Comment by Discern on April 28, 2011 at 7:39pm
It's just one of those christian chain emails that you shouldn't take as factual anyway. Someone just made the story up. Anyway, for me, leaving christianity didn't change my view on abortion, I still don't agree with it.
Comment by Natalie on April 28, 2011 at 8:04pm
There are so many things wrong with that story I'm not even sure where to start.
A lady went to her doctor and told him she wanted an abortion? As though she just woke up one morning, waltzed to the hospital demanded it with no pre thought? Oh, and she has a child already?
Any mother would have a terrible time making that choice. I'm not going to say people do make choices like that, because they do. All a post like that does is promote misconception of others and hate. There are many reasons (medical and non) people get abortions.
Who ever wrote that did an excellent job making pro-choice, or anti religious people look like non-emotional Nazis. Not to mention the doctors reply. I get this whole 1950's cheesy promotional commercial playing in my head. Did he thumb up the forth wall at the end too? Just sad.
Comment by Scarlette Blues on April 28, 2011 at 8:47pm

@Discern- Yeah, I don't really see this scenario actually taking place but if it did, I would be highly concerned about my doctor lol 

 

@Natalie- Exactly! I think most pro-lifers focus only on the careless reasonings for abortion (i.e drunken night at the bar-oops!) They never talk about the people who are financially struggling, have poor health, were raped, ect ect...everyone has their own reasoning. 

 

@Josheph- I'm sort of confused by your post and I think you are to, at least on your stance :) I'm pro-choice, meaning it's none of my business if someone I've never even met wants to have an abortion regardless of her reasons. That being said, that doesn't mean I'm pro-abortion. If you're being slut and have to have an abortion once a year, then there's a problem. I also don't think it should be state funded unless you were already on Medicaid [a part of family planning]. So, no, I don't think there should be a clinic in every town handing out free abortions.

 I think to ask "is it a human" is the wrong question. I think the question should be "is it viable outside the womb?" Because of this, I do not agree with late term abortion. If this fetus is viable outside of the womb, with the help of medical doctors, then it is a 'baby'.

Comment by Scarlette Blues on April 28, 2011 at 8:48pm
@Joseph* - Btw, men have an opinion too on this subject. It is your sperm that fertilizes the egg, after all :)
Comment by Janet Richter on April 28, 2011 at 8:55pm

I am pro-choice, not pro-abortion.  Too many people think that one is the same as the other.  The only bedroom I am responsible for is my own and I don't want any interlopers in there telling me what to do.  Of course women should be responsible for their actions and so should their partners.

 

One of my many problems on the subject is that many of the folks on the right keep beating the hell out of Planned Parenthood, Sex Education in schools and while reducing funding for welfare.  It is a Catch-22 for many undereducated women.  They don't know how to prevent pregnancy, aren't allowed birth control, can't afford an abortion and then vilified when they can't take care of a baby.  All of this while Bristol Palin gets paid big bucks for being a spokesperson against teen pregnancy and reality shows (Pregnant at 16, Teen Mom,  Teen Mom 2) pay these young women.  Something is awfully wrong with this picture.

Comment by Richard Dean Barnes on April 29, 2011 at 12:33am
Well, of course, a belief system does factor into it - your belief it is right to abort a fetus and belief that a doctor who is willing to assist you with that has a right to do so, among many other associated beliefs involved in your decision. Values are at play at all times in our decisionmaking. You cannot make decisions otherwise. Whim-driven choices, yes, but not decisions. The story doesn't work because the baby in her arms is now a separate, viable life rather than a fetus. The baby in her arms and the fetus are not equals. The lame attempt at a lesson fails. It fails because the simple-minded insist that two things are equal when they clearly are not. This is a common mistake on a long list made by the theist.

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