Muslims vs. Christians....the american bias continues...

Isn't it funny how americans, especially of the christian sect, like to view all muslims as "islamic radicals"? in light of the recent events in Boston, of which i am whole-heartedly sympathetic toward (yet we ATHEISTS HAVE NO HEART NOR MORALS i am told), i am drawn back to this argument of which i have heard others in the major media outlets sometimes talk about.  When a christian, especially an american christian, thinks of a muslim, they USUALLY think of them as an islamic radical who will blow anyone and everyone up at the slightest provocation, or no provocation at all.  They tend to think of any muslim as a terrorist, and to belong to an islamic sect is parallel to being a terrorist.  Yet when viewed in reverse, being a christian doesnt make you a klu klux klan member, yet most klan members are christians, and hold the bible as close as their torture instruments, namely a rope (if i may be so vulgar).  So why is it that these so called christians, these seemingly humble and subservient god-fearing americans, can never hold to their sacred views in practice?  do unto others as you would have them do unto you and the rest of the garbage they spew out.  All of us Atheists are who we are for a reason, and those reasons vary, but the funny thing is is that we tend to view all others as equal, until they do/say something to make them un-equal.  and even though this is a major premise of the christian faith, we all know how they only use their premises toward other christians, and not to the masses as their platforms suggest.  So here is my question for comment, since debate is pretty useless in this one sided argument, "why is it ok for christians to be christians with their multitude of sects which torture, maim, and terrorize others while hiding behind their faiths; yet those same christians are ok with vilifying all muslims and view them as terrorists"?  and i understand than im asking a bunch of atheists to comment on religious people and their views, yet i have seen this attitude spill out of the christian sects into mainstream thought and practice, both religious and non religious americans alike are guilty.  I tend to view any person as a person first, and a monster only after they exhibit monstous views or acts.  I watched the boston bombing coverage across a number of media outlets, although i watch MSNBC more than most due to their democratic leanings and (normally) non biased views.  Almost every FOX NEWS outlet was just barely holding back the "its al-queda" that was dangerously dripping from the tips of their hateful tongues, even before the pictures were released or any information actually that would show any tinge of who these mad bombers were.  And even if they were islamic, who says they are "islamic radicals"?  im sure there are christians who temporarily freak out, yet are not klan members or christian radicals, but just had a bad day or year and decided to blow some people up.  So if you would be so kind, as my fellows on this site usually are so much, to respond to my initial question buried up there somewhere, "why is it ok to be a christian and have radical psycho's in your religion and not to be a muslim who happens to just like the islamic faith"? 

i know most people here will say its not ok to be ANY religious individual, but no matter how valid our arguments are, and they ARE lol, its not the matter at hand.  from a objectively unbiased view, since you should neither be muslim nor christian and be on this site i believe, how in your views is it ok for these americans to be so biased in THEIR views of other faiths, when theirs is so fucked up internally its laughable on the point of being insane? and yes, they are insane overall, but i just want comments on this view of muslim vs christian.  thanks, ~rookie~

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Comment by Ron Humphrey on May 25, 2013 at 5:33am

It is difficult to put this correctly.  I feel that the destruction of the west is the aim of the islamists.  It is us versus them.  You don't have to be Christian to come under their rule.  I agree with Sam Harris that militant islam is the greatest threat to the earth to come along for a long time.

An islamist doesn't hesitate to kill infidels and what are infidels?----anyone not muslim. 

Comment by Simon Paynton on May 25, 2013 at 8:07am

Comment by Simon Paynton on May 25, 2013 at 8:07am

Comment by Ray R. on May 26, 2013 at 1:24am
I dislike all beliefs based on zero evidence . That being said , I am in complete agreement with Ron that Islam represents a grave and immediate threat to western culture and civilization . To call this by the ridiculous term , " Islamophobia " , is to ignore the peril at our doorstep.
Comment by Reg The Fronkey Farmer on May 26, 2013 at 4:50am

Here are a few links to Sam Harris posts.

Christian Terrorism and Islamophobia and a good one on that word “Islamophobia

Comment by Unseen on May 26, 2013 at 3:36pm

When a christian, especially an american christian, thinks of a muslim, they USUALLY think of them as an islamic radical who will blow anyone and everyone up at the slightest provocation, or no provocation at all.  They tend to think of any muslim as a terrorist, and to belong to an islamic sect is parallel to being a terrorist.

As a TA member it should be clear by now that I'm no Christian, and yet is this assertion of yours an impression you have or a fact? I don't think it's a fact. I don't think this is what Christians "usually" think. It may be what many think, but before I think this is what most Christians think, I'll need more than just your impression on the matter.

Got some research you can point to?

Comment by Pope Beanie on May 26, 2013 at 6:13pm

It should be noted that most extreme terrorism comes from the middle east, and other nearby, repressed countries. I propose that, if the dominant religion there was xtianity, and if Israel was a Muslim state (with similar history of a diaspora being given and still taking Palestinian land for settlement), only the names of the religions and the jihadists would be different. 

Comment by Unseen on May 26, 2013 at 8:03pm

As for "The Highway of Death," if you're going to make an omelette, you gotta break some eggs.

The omelette in this case was to impress anyone watching that you don't want to mess with US. 

How well it worked, I'll leave up to you. 

When was the last time anyone fighting against the US honored the Geneva Conventions, anyway?

Comment by Pope Beanie on May 26, 2013 at 8:13pm

Part of the definition of terrorism is that it indiscriminately kills innocent or non-combatant people as part of its message and purpose. I'd even go so far as to say that this is part of the definition of "evil" behavior. We may not care enough about collateral morbidity, but it's certainly not a principle of our behavior, as it is with terrorists.

Yeah, we underestimate how our own actions can cause terrorism to sprout, but we also underrate positive effects of surgical targeting that attempts to avoid collateral morbidity. ("Shock and Awe" was most certainly part terrorism, and should have been called something like "Shock and Awe Crusade".)

Comment by Keith Konecny on May 26, 2013 at 8:17pm

as a matter of FACT, i querried over 667(meaning 668 lol) christians from 3 local TOLEDO OHIO super churches, and hid the question among others concerning faith.  89% of the christians polled answered this question thus: "what is the first word that pops into your mind when i say the following words, 1. jesus 2. hell 3. muslim 4. holy trinity 5. evolution" the answer to #3 was 89% TERRORIST.  i can post the poll and many of the answers.  it was blind, no names no dates (although it was last august 2012) and toledo ohio was the area.  it is for a book i am writing that is currently in the "what the hell do i do now" phase. so someone above who asked if it was my IMPRESSION vs FACT, well its a bit of both i guess.  I only write what i feel, and being slightly educated i try and put a little fact behind my feelings so i do not seem totally idiotic and biased.  although when it comes to the complete idiocy and fallacy of religion, nothing i could possibly say should seem idiotic in comparison.  Thanks for all the posts, its exactly what i was going for, educated discussion to expand my vision of the "real world" ;)  happy memorial day everyone, be safe and stay outta jail.



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