Religion is a communicable disease that is following its ways of getting resistant to the antibiotic of reason. To eradicate any communicable disease from a nation, let us say, there is first a nation-wide attack so, involving both actual measures and awareness programmes. This is usually followed by surveys telling you the info on the more difficult zones in the nation that deserve special attention. On the way to eradication, mopping up activities, i.e door to door attack is done to eliminate any unidentified cases. Same holds for religion, if we want to relieve humanity from the right/ tendency/compulsion claimed by theists to do evil/injustice/wrong in the name of religion. The point here I need to make is that if such a movement against theism has to meet success, we need to realise, in depth about the variety of ways theism strengthens itself. Surely, this is not going to happen in entirety merely by concentrating on christianity or islam.
Going by the statistics, christianity and islam are the religions, whose evils impede human development the most and about whom ratioanalists are best aware of. The chunk of the new atheist movement should obviously be directed at them. But there are other religious sects in the world, which we need to be aware of, in order to understand the problem in full.
My focus is here on the rather unpopular section of islam, the ismaili sect.
There are elaborate ways in which they differ from the usual sunni muslims that you come across. I will limit my discussion on the aspects of this sect that make it especially more formidable to new atheist movement, mostly from their Indian population.
The most peculiar feature of the sect is that they have a dynamic religion. Though koran continues to be their main scripture, its interpretation is not exactly the job of the common ismaili anymore. In fact, the actual koran they follow is the word of their Imam, a word that is always supposed to change with times. He is the head of all ismailis throughout the world, who, for them, is closer to god than mohammad (of the koran) himself. He is the equivalent of the pope, but his characters deserve mention as he is far less pathetic as the typical pope himself. The pope is a way towards atheism for many born-christians, but this guy tends to be a man even an atheist will admire, except for his religion ofcourse.
He is supposed to be the descendant of mohammad. He works for a very long tenure, sometimes elected even as a teenager. He makes sure he selects the best guy in his blood line before his death, as simple as that! No complicated procedures. The current guy is a workaholic, and moves round the world for his followers, making life easy for them through massive funds and political associations. Its not disgusting for a man, who who is indifferent to the big questions of mankind, to say no to reason, in exchange of a ray of hope and support like him, at every point in life.
Over the years, their theology has evolved (unusual to use that word for a religion, but its true) out of the words of their Imam. There is no active suppression of women, who attend the mosques (in western clothes too, nobody objects!) and are encouraged to study and work as they like. The family generally prefers to let women be housewives, but no compulsion really, they can be very learnt and working women or even activists for the upliftment of their sect.
The Imam encourages education, prosperity in work in his messages every now and then. Not surprising, they might actually be considered the most developed groups of muslims in India. They have been denied reservations in eductional institution and jobs unlike other muslims, solely because of their prosperity. In India, you will find a homeless beggar from virtually every other religious group in india, but not this one. These people love each other so much, they wont allow you to stay on streets jobless even if u insist. There are independent scholarships for any level of education, right upto the smallest educational expenses. There are health benefits no governent or private organisation will provide you. The month long fast is also optional, and the strict restrictions during the month of ramadan have been compromised to his/her individual comfort.
Then why not leave alone Happy little clan?
Well the answer to this question comes from another question, alteast partly.
"why after all this education, modernization, these guys don’t turn atheists at the same rate as would be expected by anyone who has known the association of atheism with economic prosperity, higher education, intelligence, lack of poverty ?" I dont have statistics to support but I have seen othe religions to have an idea that the rate is considerably less when compared to christianity or sunni islam which supposedly are the most formidable ones. And thats simply because an important force driving an theist towards atheism - the disgust of the ethics and practices in their relgion, is relatively deficient when u are an ismaili-born.
I said they promoted education, but it is a distorted one (when it comes to the big concepts). They have affiliated schools were the teachers can be predominantly the ones of the sect. Now if you thought that removal of creationism from school textbooks will do, think again. For they will teach the creationism of other religions (hinduism in indian text books, for instance) as fairy tales to be learnt to get through exams and tell you a different interpretation of darwinism altogether, one that apparently fits into their dynamic religion, if you don’t reason deep enough. They will add a bit of history to their advantage and blame christianity for "misunderstanding" darwin and that darwin went to heaven for his contribution to biology (that never conflicted with religion in the first place) It works for an ordinary student, who may not choose a biology related field in future to care about these questions.
If you thought that those guys who joined the other non-affiliated schools had escaped, wait! They have a more fool proof way of indoctrination, the one that I propound is stronger than the one the sunni muslims adopt. They have this concept of "night religious school". And it really Is a school, with classes, subjects, exams and all. Here they don’t force the lines of koran to be mugged in toto as is done with other muslims. In fact, koran is not brought into the scene by anyone. "koran studies" is a subject apart from other handful. They teach you the meaning of koran and the words of their head in the context that is more acceptable by young mind. So as the actual lines of the scripture aren't read, an ordinary student never knows of the highly unethical elements of koran that the atheist world knows about.
If you guess that a fraction of students will avoid these classes due to boredom, wait. First, the parents are gonna force them into being regular to these, till the students get used to it. And sooner or later they figure out that atleast partly, they are fun. To add to that, it’s a good hangout for an evening, you can do all silly juvenile stuff before and after the class. Kids are treated as kids and not as soldiers of allah. And they try all novel and modern ways of teaching.
For those enthusiastic students who go out of the syllabus and try to read and interpret the actual koran and compare it with the teachings they have already received, there are backup measures already in place. Firstly, they are never taught arabic. And obviously they live in parts of the world where arabic isn't a language you would learn, or be taught otherwise. The next usual option of "appropriate interpretation" being urdu, the language related to arabic, for an indian sunni muslim, isn't an option for ismaili students to study religion. Here comes the benefit of being a minority, there is no specific language for their theology, worldwide. They gain the language of the area. But for india, it’s more related to their geographical origin than their spread. Its gujrati, the language of the gujrat state. Even the prayer is in gujrati. They being "forward" also adopt english in bigger cities. So this allows a lot of opportunity to mistranslate it. Mistranslation is the rule, because the ones who will bother to translate are the "dynamic" followers you see. A simple change of style of presentation will make the prophets more great and less questionable, no need to change the basic fairy tales (who can disprove them anyways).
Next, perhaps the most basic, is that before any student reads the actual koran, he is likely to be well indoctrinated in the point that the sunni muslims are wrong in that the word of mohammad is final. That the absolute truth was meant to be the words that carry from the mouths of the descendants of mohammad over the centuries. There goes any chance of beating them with their scripture! So hard for atheists to teach the theists about the parts of a single old book, now these guys have several unwritten editions of koran they will point at our face for us to disprove. Not far fetched to say everyone of them has an edition of his own, given the liberal nature of religion. Who will succumb in this sect to think of atheism? A multidrug resistant mutant you see!
So the question comes again, little people with strong delusion, why not leave them alone?
This question is debatable for atheists, surely the accomodationists would disagree with the point of this discussion. But I will leave my discussion on why religion is an evil even in apparently milder, less extremist forms, to another blog.
This group doesn’t differ from other extremist, intolerant religions in a few aspects, most important of them being the constant pointing that their faith is supreme and all the rest of them are going to hell. Now isn't it too greedy for such a small group to expect they alone will go to heaven? Their Imam doesn’t go on and on about this but again, like all the thinks he wont oppose, anyone reading this from the koran or its editions will not be regarded as wrong, even by those people at a smaller rank than the Imam. They are friendly guys who will keep their feeling that the other faiths are wrong, to themselves, and make friends with others. But will not allow other theists into their mosques. In this aspect, they are worse than the christians and hindus.
All the good social work they do, most of them do it for being one of the "famous frogs" of their well. And others will do it for better place in heaven. They have charity, education, prosperity, Yes, but all of them with their share of hollowness. Hardly any of their prosperity, goes into doing good to the world outside their sect. in essence, it is a relatively harmless resistant strain of a microbe that will raise its generations by filling a biomass of irrational crap. Everyday they spend hrs in the mosque doing all sorts of stupid rituals apart from the usual prayer, whose only good purpose is to bind them together. Their unity, which by making them close to each other, repels them from not only sunni muslim sect and other religions, but from reason as well.
So I sum up that its primarily a model for understanding how the disease called religion strengthens itself. Religion is similar to infectious disease in that it has a carrier state too! Its not scientific to be careless about the carriers who go wild and spread with their resistance plasmid and their ability to aquire formidable mutations! If we have to see scienctific thinking win in every human's mind, these rare sects will pose a big problem in "mopping up" activities in eradication of religion. And its not necessary for them to remain a minority, for they are growing well. Multi-drug resistance was once an exceptional concept, not the case now!
Comment by PsycheSATANi on December 3, 2011 at 12:07pm //Even if the imans try to make their religion as updatable as software, it will still be too slow in the long run. Prophet based religions are just too primitive for the future.//
the future is too far and the long run too long. atheism may be well creeping into the developed nations, but keep their geographical extent aside and u will see that much of the population of the world is still underdeveloped and theism has strong ground in it, for the world to be a better place. its not exactly right if all the atheists live their lives hoping that atheism will eventually win and turn deaf ears and blind eyes to the evils of religion.
seriously, do we stay cool when an epidemic comes because ultimately science will figure out a way to eradicate it? on a global level, we cant just take our chances of slowing down in the face of religion
//If they are going to play prophet, then so can i. Here goes//
no you cant, neither can i, the Imams are the direct descendants of muhammad. the blood line never shifts, and he is generally capable of mass delusions. if genetics figures out definitive hereditary factors responsible for leadership, i m sure these Imams have them running through their family tree. and the name of muhammad is not going into fiction in any near future.
one big reasons, we atheists need to carry the movement stronger is that the highly eduated intellectuals are serving as the role models when they spend big parts of their lives propagating religion, apart from earning names in their own specialities and talents. the Imam that i m mentioning is no less.
//I cannot imagine space travel with the olde testament//
i can! space travel is only a scientific milestone made by scientists (it is not a big difference if all of them are atheists then), not humanity! You can achieve milestones like that with masses still dying of starvation and the rest of the population being bothered of their own lives giving huge sums in the name of religion. What percent of the population living in developed nations cares to do a thing when an outbreak of a poor-sanitation related disease occurs in the developed parts of the world. You see the people of the developed nations are unaware of the poor sanitation in developing nations. Leaving the geographical limits again, we can see such a disparity withing a single nation (best example - India) where you can see the too rich being indifferent of the plight of the too poor. Where does the uneducated poor go, but the god, when the rest of the developed world doesnt do a thing but share his pics on facebook? Why would he care if man has gone to the moon or the mars? It is only we that are lucky enough to be able to understand that his conditions doesnt get better by praying to god everyday.
//These religions, orthadox judaeism, fundamentalist christianity, and fundamentalist islam and various prophet based primitivism will be left behind.//
the whole point of my blog is that when this will happen, we may see an uproar, or alteast a tough fight from such dynamic religions like ismailis. i m not sure, which will be the last to survive, but the decline of one religion (say christianity) will surely make the extremist of the other religion (say islam) more sure of their faith (god punished the other faith and blah), and it will give them a booster to spend their lives in seeing that their religion finally runs in majority
Comment by Ed on December 4, 2011 at 12:50pm The wheels of change turn ever so slowly. Religion will have it's ups and downs but eventually science and reason will prevail. It may take another 5000 years or one big rock may make it a moot concern.
Comment by PsycheSATANi on December 4, 2011 at 1:08pm ed, but we need to turn those wheels dont we?
Comment by PsycheSATANi on December 4, 2011 at 1:11pm we cant just sit around and expect changes to happen. each of us has to pick one (or more) good global change to work on. how else can we atheists satisfy ourselves that there is some "meaning" to our lives? by being one of the wheel turners!
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