I was recently in a building, at Kent State, waiting for my General Psych class to start. I sit in this building for four hours everyday, because of a stupid schedule, waiting for this class. So I have made friends to cope with the boredom. Well one day, me and my friend Joe got into a debate. 

I write for a LGBT friendly internet magazine, thatgatmagazine.com, so I'm pro gay! Well anyways, Joe and I got into a debate about homosexuals getting married. I never really saw why it was anyone's business whether or not gays could marry. I think if they want to, they should be able to. 

Joe on the other hand got all..."Ima defeat you and your open mindedness." He went on to say that marriage is only between a man and a woman. It is purely a religious right, and people who are not religious (who don't believe in god) should get married. 

1st off, I know plenty of gay's who believe in God. (He had said that gays don't believe in god, if they did, they wouldn't be gay.) 

2nd, I don't believe in god, or any type of god at all, so I was extremely offended. 

I asked him if that meant that I couldn't get married. He said that I could as long as I was getting married to a man. I went on to tell him that I was atheist and didn't believe. Then he went off on some contradictory tangent on how he wasn't referring to me but only to the gay community, and then once more said anyone who doesn't believe in god shouldn't get married. 

By then I was peeve'd, like smoke was coming out of my ears and fire was shooting from my eyeballs. U stated that I was atheist, that I will one day get married but I wont be doing it for religious reasons. He said that I couldn't get married/shouldn't because it was strictly for religious members. 

Needless to say...my temper got the best of me and I started calling him names O.O 

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Comment by Apple on April 13, 2011 at 11:42am

I wonder how deep his knowledge or marriage within religion really is.  He seems like the type to say something about not wanting to "change the definition of marriage" or some such nonsense.  You should remind him that in the old testament marriage (along with a few pieces of silver) was the punishment given to a man for raping an unmarried girl.  You break it, you buy it. 


I think you'll enjoy this:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OFkeKKszXTw

Comment by Sarah Emmaly Burgett on April 13, 2011 at 1:21pm
I find myself thinking about this alot. I, as a human being (not as a christian or a believer) feel that I have the right to get married but their is a part of me that doesn't even want to mess with it. In my family you have to get married in a church... by my uncle. That's what everyone does. So basically if i wanted to get married I'd either have to suck it up and do things the way my family wants them... or elope. It's sad that "my day" can't even really be my day without someone preaching at me....  needless to say, it would end in anger and disappoinment. If I could come up with a way to intertwine my beliefs with my family's beliefs, I would... but no such alternative exsists to my knowledge.  This Joe guy seems like a tool belt... a brainwashed tool belt.  I will never understand why people think they have the right to tell ANYONE what they're allowed to do... especially when it involves a commitment between two people. It's up to those two people and nobody else! Seriously.. If gay people getting married is such a horrible "sin" then let god deal with it! Enforcing the law that certain people can't get married is like enforcing the law that you can't have sex until you're married.  People are still gonna do it just like gay people are going to live like they're married even if they aren't. In my opinion.. as long as you're not harming anyone in any way by your actions then do whatever you want... gay people and nonbelievers getting married doesn't hurt anyone. Good job sticking up for what you believe in Amber!
Comment by Kim on April 13, 2011 at 1:45pm

There are plenty of reasons for getting married that have nothing at all to do with god!


My husband and I got married because:


We were in love! And wanted a symbolic gesture of our love and commitment to each other, both for ourselves and for our family and friends.


We wanted to have kids and wanted to give those kids a stable and traditional home (not that i think marriage is necessary for that)


For the wide range of legal and financial benefits that come from a legal union, such as rights in case of serious illness or death, parental rights, tax breaks, pensions etc.


All of these are valid reasons no matter your sexuality and should be available to all.  Where God figures in all of this I have no idea!

Comment by Amber Cantrell on April 14, 2011 at 10:09am

@rich, you're comment made me giggle, if ever I wanted to smoke a joint i would go to joe because that's the only thing he's good for, though I don't do that so there is no need to be near joe. 

@apple, I ended up telling him that and he freaked out

@sarah, Hi!!! Thanks for the supporton me stickin up for my beliefs. =) (side note, I added you as a friend!! I was excited) 

@kim,I brought up all those reasons in our little debate, and then he just kept going on how those were stupid reason, and that the only reason people should get marry is for religous beliefs. ANd then he went and did more contradictory things. 


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