making everything into a religious debate is not my goal, thinking is my mission

Friend: Faith is believing in things when common sense tells you not to.

Me: Also, believing what you know is not so.

Friend: Is it your mission in life to make everything a religious debate?

Me: Yes, I was hired by the ACLU and the Freedom From Religion Foundation to reply to your status.

Ok so I was sarcastic rather than serious. I could have come up with, it is your status, I just made a comment, why are you getting so defensive. Or I could have mentioned that is a Mark Twain quote and be done with it. I might have even tried bashing closed mindedness ergo Qualia Soups open-mindedness video. I do have a tendency to be a "militant new atheist" or whatever that is. But when it comes down to it, I just want people to think more rationally. There is no fight with atheists and relgion, but a fight between rationality and irrationality. My only goal is to get people to think about why they believe what they believe. I am not better or worse than the next person, but I do believe in rational and critical thinking, and have a belief system that reflects reality. I do want people handing out badges for ignorance, I want people being rewarded for their excellence in thinking.

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Comment by Velogiraptor on March 14, 2010 at 8:05pm
So what you're saying is:

Comment by Jake W. Andrews on March 14, 2010 at 8:23pm
Comment by Phil White on March 14, 2010 at 10:43pm
haha love it
Comment by Shine on March 15, 2010 at 7:54am
See, here is what I do not understand about exchanges like this. The (I presume) religious person makes a positive comment about faith, and you respond with a negative comment. Yet you are the one has a "mission in life to make everything a religious debate?" I really cannot understand why it is fine for a religious person to make religious comments, yet if anyone disagrees or comments it is then the responding person who has the mission.

I just don't understand how responding to something can be painted as having a mission. If someone truly had a mission, wouldn't they be the one making the initial comments?
Comment by Jānis Ķimsis on March 15, 2010 at 12:57pm
What I don't understand is how is his original statement in any way in favor of faith?
Comment by Jake W. Andrews on March 16, 2010 at 2:05am
We do not see the quote, as in favor, because we know faith is irrational. What his statement suggests, and intends to propose (he is a religious conservative), is that taking something with out common sense is some how a virtue. That sometimes faith is sufficient enough, rather than going over board with common sense. I agree I think the words are not in favor or faith, but he is hiding the meaning of the words to show a different perspective, which is what my quote unveils, that faith is not a virtue, but more in line with lying to yourself.
Comment by Shine on March 16, 2010 at 8:05am
I understand what Jake is saying. To us, "common sense" is a good thing that is strengthened and fostered through learning and experience. But to a fundamentalist Christian, "common sense" is just another form of egotism. Depending upon "common sense" to a Christian is somehow a form of disobedience towards God. After all,

Trust in the LORD with all your heart and lean not on your own understanding (Proverbs 3:5)

is a treasured Christian saying. I agree that it is completely ridiculous and worthy of tears, laughter, or even possibly a straitjacket. But since when did religion--particularly Christianity--start making sense? ;)


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