I just read an article this morning online about a group teens in Oklahoma who randomly shot and killed an Australian collage student and claim they did it "for the fun of it". All I can think of is, what is wrong with these kids? 

"...Charged with first-degree murder are Chancey Allen Luna, 16, and James Francis Edwards Jr., 15, according to the Stephens County District Attorney's office. Michael Dewayne Jones, 17, who allegedly drove the vehicle carrying the other suspects, was charged with use of a vehicle in the discharge of a weapon and accessory to murder after the fact, the office said..."

"...Lane was out jogging during a visit to his girlfriend and her family in Duncan on Friday, when he was shot in the back, police said. He attended East Central University in Ada, Oklahoma, where he was on a baseball scholarship.

What drives a person (even the most immature teenager) to think that killing someone is funny? Or that its acceptable to kill for fun? From a psychological viewpoint, what causes a persons train of thought to resort to killing for fun?

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Comment by Logan D on August 21, 2013 at 9:23pm

Seeing this, I feel a sense of outrage. Outrage to the point I want the three killers to disappear in the middle of the night, I do not want talk of rehabilitation, I do not want to read about their trial, I just want them gone. Psychologists are studying the trend, but so far its causes remain uncertain. But you'd be surprised how many animals do actually kill for the sheer excitement of the act, or at least not to eat or defend themselves. It's not just humans who are bloodthirsty.

Comment by Strega on August 21, 2013 at 9:38pm

The trouble with that, Logan, is that unless we can discover what caused their behaviour, we are going to be subjected to repeats by others.  Alternatively, we need a deterrent that will actually work on the same mindset level. 

In Singapore, they have public caning on their statutes.  I imagine the humiliation, rather than the pain alone, might have a deterring effect on this kind of activity.  After all, if its 'cool to kill', its pretty massively uncool to have your bare butt caned in public.

I know we think of jail as a deterrent, but in some circles, youngsters actually think its cool to have been in prison.  Sure, they soon discover how terrible imprisonment can be, but that is AFTER the crime.

I don't know the solution, but there has to be something more effective than jail time.  Jail is punishment, but I don't think it acts as much of a deterrent any more.

Comment by Melvinotis on August 21, 2013 at 10:15pm
Did a little research, Duncan, OK is the birthplace of Halliburton. And Ron Howard. The former might be significant regarding the makeup of the inhabitants of Duncan, the latter, certainly not.
Duncan is only 1% African American, so the young black man pictured is one of less than 300 black people in the city.
Just some bits of interest. Going to bed now, more research later.
Comment by Logan D on August 21, 2013 at 10:22pm

Fair point. This is a story we’re intimately familiar with, at least on the broad strokes. The really interesting, though, is what sets them apart from other bored hooligans who kill just for jollies, and how it all pieces together. It would be premature to discard decades of scientific research based on one or two studies.

Comment by Doug Reardon on August 21, 2013 at 11:20pm

Anyone recall Leopold and Loeb?

Comment by Unseen on August 21, 2013 at 11:50pm

Most of the gun deaths in the U.S. happen in dangerous areas inhabited by racial minorities and are between racial minorities.

Most Australians visiting the U.S. are likely to be well-to-do and white and are even less likely to be murdered than white Americans.

This murder was just a meaningless anomaly.

Comment by M.M. on August 22, 2013 at 2:38am

It would appear the vast majority of the well publicized shootings over the last decade are done by the younger generation.

Today at Office Depot I found a clearance bin full of P.C. games. I'm no gamer but I love Star Trek so I bought a $5 Star Trek game.

On the back of the slip cover is the ratings label.

E for everyone/Fantasy Violence.

For some reason that phrase sticks in my mind.


Comment by Brendan on August 22, 2013 at 3:32am

It would be an interesting study on the psychiatric level for sure as to what motivates someone to think this act would be fun. The answers at first would probably be generic such as violent media and media figures and the want of imitation but peeling back the layers even further would probably present some interesting concept into the human mind and how "Just speculating here" close to animal it truly is.

Comment by Ed on August 22, 2013 at 6:58am

A larger segment of American society seems to have become desensitized to death. We seem to be obsessed with it in many ways: video games, Hollywood movies, tv crime dramas, sensational jury trials, local evening news. A passing curiosity in death may be healthy but our culture of violence needs to take a 'turn for peace' at some point.

Comment by Unseen on August 22, 2013 at 8:33am

I'm really more fascinated by the irrational response of the Aussie politician who seems to think that visiting Australians are exposed to the same danger as those living where most of the violence takes place in America, whereas they are likely to have considerably less real exposure than a typical white American living in a middle-class suburb. His analytical skills are not impressive.


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