Comment by Garrett Taffer on September 5, 2011 at 3:16pm

Kroli, Stephen Hawking brought up a very good point, though. If the universe did not have time before it existed, as noted with the way black holes work, then how could God have created the universe with no time? A theist can argue that time has no real significance to God when he created it, but that's grabbing statements from empty air while still having to agree that God must have gotten that ball rolling to create the big bang and therefore everything else we know, including evolution.

As far as my wife.. *Sigh* Look, just don't fall in love with someone who's deeply religious. Or, DO fall in love with someone who's religious, come back to me in 25 years after you're married or living with your significant other, have kids, have outside family who's religious and try to run a business with religious people who would leave you in a drop of a hat if they found out you're atheist. Then we can talk bible discrepancies.

Nah, JK. Talk to me about them anytime ;-)

Comment by Gretchen Becker on September 5, 2011 at 8:43pm

Garrett-

I can understand your advice to not marry someone who's deeply religious... after three years of struggling my mother just split with my recently born-again evangelical father. It's definitely not easy. Good luck.

Comment by Thaddeus Dombrowski on September 5, 2011 at 8:43pm

Actually, I think you were born agnostic.  You weren't an atheist until you first considered the question of God's existence.

Comment by Joseph on September 5, 2011 at 10:27pm

@ Garrett

Condolences, brother.  I know your situation first-hand.  Tough, very tough.

@Gretchen

As an atheist parent, I have chosen to support and nurture the Santa mythology for the express purpose of using it later to point out the equally mythological qualities of the Judeo-Christian religion.  Given your experiences, would you concur with the approach or play it differently?

Comment by Gretchen Becker on October 16, 2011 at 10:46pm

I think that's a great idea, @Joseph. Plus, what kid wants to be the only one in class who doesn't get presents from a mythical Santa? :) 

@Thaddeus, Good point. That definitely makes more sense. I suppose nonbeliever would work too.

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