Hi! I'm Raithie; an Irish teenage atheist. Since this is my introductory post to the Think Atheist community - I suppose I'll give a brief outline of myself and why I'm here in the first place.I love to surf, read, play guitar and debate. However, you'll catch me doing anything - I love life and all that comes with it. That sums me up!
I recently decided to bring my atheism online and started to join atheist and theist discussion forums and blogs, and this inspired me to create my own blog. Anyway, below is my latest post outlining the contradictory nature of God and Hell according to the Bible. The original (along with the comments) can be viewed at: http://www.teenageatheist.com/2010/06/hell-burning-contradiction.html
"I recently entered a conversation about Hell with a Christian, and quite frankly I am absolutely appalled.
The Hell that I am talking about is the Hell according to the Bible:
- Matthew 13:50 “furnace of fire…weeping and gnashing of teeth”
- Mark 9:48 “where their worm does not die, and the fire is not quenched”
- Revelation 14:10 “he will be tormented with fire and brimstone”
- Revelation 14:11 “the smoke of their torment goes up forever and ever and they have no rest day and night”
- Revelation 20:15 “If anyone’s name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire”
- Revelation 20:14 “This is the second death, the lake of fire”
That sounds outrageously evil. In fact, the only thing that's more horrific and sickening than Hell itself is the being that supposedly created it and allows for its existence. According to the Bible, that being is God. And yet, somehow, he still manages to get away with "benevolent" attached to his name and character.
I cannot even begin to fathom how anyone could justify perpetual misery and torture with a finite crime - regardless of the scale of the sin. Absolutely no action done here on Earth could possibly be justly sanctioned by an eternity of suffering and torture. Hell only highlights the hideous, horrific, vicious, revengeful, spiteful,
unchristian, ungodly, unforgiving nature of the biblical God's punishment of his own creation . This punishment is probably one of the greatest of all proofs for the non existence of the biblical "supreme, benevolent being". A revengeful Christian God is an oxymoron.
Some Christians even go as far to tell you that unrepetentant sin deserves such brutal and grotesque punishment. They then even apply this to nonbelievers; claiming that atheists and the like will burn and choke for eternity due to their cynical and questioning nature that "God" himself apparently gave them. If that were the case - it seems like this omniscient and omnipotent (and of course
benevolent) "God" is setting them up solely for a miserable existence. It also means Gandhi and everyone who isn't a Christian, is also going to Hell. Seemingly, peoples good nature is nulled if they dare doubt
His existence. How dare they believe the wrong fairytale...!
I don't believe in God
because I see absolutely no reason to believe in the supernatural, I realise the potential humans have for stirring up imaginative tales and because how gullible people can be, especially if it fits in with their own instinctual desires. Whether I'm a good person or not is nothing in the biblical God's eyes - I don't believe therefore I deserve only an eternity of torture! How sad. Quite frankly, I find it deeply disturbing, sickening
and simply revolting
that people can believe and preach such things.
I'm going to throw out a scenario. A child (let's name him Bill), pulls a girls hair during class and commits a few other minor "sins". The teachers response to this is to torture him continuously for the rest of his life, regardless of whether he apologizes or not during this time. According to the "Good Book", that's how Hell works. Except, Hell is infinitely worse because it never ends.
Someone could be burning and suffering for zillions and trillions of years and God still wouldn't care, certainly not enough to do anything about it. If he felt he really must
punish someone - why did he opt for the most brutal and forgiving option possible?
(Atheist / wrong religion)
Now let's say that Bill didn't pull the girls hair, but he heard someone else did. Now he didn't see it himself (no evidence), and he knows that the boy who claimed to have done so is always lying about such things (human nature). A teacher then comes along and asks Bill what happened. Bill truthfully answers that he doesn't know because he didn't see anything, however he sees it as unlikely because there are a few contradictory tellings of the story and the boy in question is always lying. The teachers response is to throw him in a dungeon to be
tortured until he dies from old age from a life full of nothing but anquish and incomprehensible suffering. Except, once again - Hell is infinitely worse!
But it's all okay - because God still loves them and will forgive them and... oh wait, no, he doesn't and won't - Hell is eternal and inescapable.
The "Happy Hell" Christians:
And for those Christians that thought you could get away with claiming that Hell does not exist and still accept the Bible as a divine revelation - let me give you a few quotes from Jesus
in the "Holy Book": (and all from the New Testament)
- "Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire"And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth."
- “where their worm does not die, and the fire is not quenched”
I wouldn't be to happy to hear that from the Son of God. Sounds a bit sadistic, to be honest. So, since most of Christians don't accept the Hell of the Bible - why not? You believe the rest of the fairytale. How can you decide what you believe or not, considering the Bible doesn't actually differentiate between the two? It seems like you're just cherry picking your favourite parts (the bits that just sound nice and good and happy) to fit an ancient, primitive tale into a modern society. Either accept the Bible fully (and that God is a malevolent prick) or discard it. Preferably the latter. Science and reality prove to be a much more interesting and accurate read."