I have a friend of decades that apparently found god somewhere.  Must be somewhere I forgot to look.

Anyway, she has a precancerous female condition and was genetically tested to have a predisposition for such problems.  She's trying to not deal with the fact that she could have cancer within the next year without preventative treatment by concluding that everyone's favorite imaginary friend has already healed her.

Being not insane, this is scary.  She might have a new cultist attitude but this has been my best friend since before we started kindergarten.

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Comment by joshua james on February 9, 2012 at 11:41am

when did she start believing in god? soon after she found out of her condition or after she found out she may have cancer?

anyway, theres not much to do but try to smack her sense back into her. try avoiding that going to treatment does not mean shes hypocritical or w/e (even though in reality it is).

Comment by Gabriela Menicucci on February 9, 2012 at 3:25pm

Well I had an internal hemorrage a few weeks ago, my family and friends tried to take it as proof of god existence, turned out I never believed in god not even for a second and now I'm healed and healthy. That proves to me god doesn't exist, if he did existed he would have grounded me right there  and I would have died in surgery. I'm still here. Granted it was no cancer but it wasn't a joke either. If she believes so much that god will heal her then she can skip treatment, since her god has her on top 10, kids starving to death are on the bottom of his list.

Comment by Ed on February 9, 2012 at 7:10pm

In the best interest of your frined I would tell her that her god would want her "to do her best and leave the rest up to her/him/it." Which would mean she needs to be proactive in her monitoring of this condition. My step daughter just had laser surgery this week for a similar sort of problems.

Comment by Cristynfaye on February 9, 2012 at 8:29pm

In my Christian experience, which was a long and extensive one, most people believe that God works through modern medicine.  Unless she is Christian Science or Amish or some other weird thing that doesn't believe in using medicine, then she shouldn't have a problem with getting treatment from doctors.  I've never ever ever known a regular, run of the mill, living-for-jesus type Christian who has rejected getting medical treatment in favor of just waiting to be healed.  They all pray for the medicine to work, and for the doctors to know what they are doing, but they usually do get the treatment.  So maybe you could talk her into getting it from that angle- that God has used scientists and doctors for his good, and that they have been able to discover ways to treat illnesses and diseases because God wants them to.

Comment by Heather Spoonheim on February 10, 2012 at 10:07am

If she has decided that her invisible friend has healed her, there is likely nothing you can do.  She could be laying on her death bed and would just claim that it is YOUR lack of faith that has allowed satan to revive the cancer - and she'll plead with you to join her in her god-psychosis.  The only hope would be that she is healed of the cognitive-virus that is Christianity before it's too late, but deconversion isn't something you can just do to another person.

Comment by Sarah Nowell on February 12, 2012 at 11:57am

Sorry guys, I've been a busy girl.

She has always talked a big christian game.  She just hadn't begun to engage in cult like behavior until the last year or two.  Talking to her is like chess anymore because I am just as much, if not more so outspoken in regard to my intellectual independence as she is about the invisible man in the sky.  Clearly it's dangerous for her soul to keep my type of company.

The things you deal with for the sake of decades of friendship right?

Mostly I just try to focus on other aspects of the subject, like "yeah, researching other women in your family with female cancers has to be bloody frightening".

Under normal circumstances I'm not the type to jump through these kind of hoops, but I also realize that I'm the only person with the sense to encourage her to at least try.  That makes me feel obligated not to alienate her.

I think the idea of rationalizing the pursuit of medical is probably a good idea for her physical sake, but it's just really hard for me to contribute to her mentality.  By not getting care because you believe a thing you put yourself in real physical danger.  If she dodges this bullet for now, and I contribute to the mentality, what about next time?  If her odds are worse will she just leave it up to someone who doesn't exist?

These are just some of the things I think about.  I appreciate you guys listening!  When I speak to people I know about things like this I might as well be speaking Swahili.  Sometimes I feel like the only atheist on the planet.


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