Harm And The Evolution Of The Gullibility For Religion
In entry 547 I compared two videos revealing the atrocities suffered by the children in Kinsey's research. While one was as seemingly unbiased documentary, the other was biased by the christian religion.
This brought me back to the old question, why a level of intelligence in the human brain inventing advanced technology did co-evolve with a level of irrationality causing delusions like the one of the existence of deities and all subsequent nonsense.
Gullibility to delusional beliefs did evolve for a reason. Falling for such beliefs was in some way beneficial in the adaptation to coping with the challenges of the survival of the species, no matter how unfortunate it is for the oblivious individuals.
To declare not harming and not be harmed as the essence of a good life is a part of the wisdom of Epicurus. Harm is the key explanation of the evolved susceptibility to religious beliefs, because the success of the survival of any species is enhanced and enabled by harm to individuals.
"...a female spider kills and eats a male of the same species before, during, or after copulation."
"his indirectly contributing nutrition to the eggs. "
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spider_cannibalism.
The deity's permission serves as a sufficient justification to harm, either due to the deity having alleged unknown rational reason or by having earned it as part of a deal. Religion frees the harming person from any consideration for the victim.
This is a copy from my ERCP-blog:
http://egalitarianrationalcommitmentparadigm.blogspot.de/2012/08/55...
Comment by Simon Paynton on August 4, 2012 at 4:24am Don't take this the wrong way, but I'm not surprised you're lonely if you carry on like that. You come across as very intimidating. What would you do if your partner failed to always be "an atheist, skeptic and apistic"? Run him over?
I know you have very strong views. I have very strong views as well, but I try not to hammer them into people's heads. I have learned it's better to ask questions and make a discussion, otherwise people just feel like they've been beaten up, and let's face it, most people aren't as intellectual as you and me. And guess what, I don't know everything, and neither do you.
You seem like a 10-ton truck bearing down on someone. Why not come across like a swan, or a little bird, or a lamb? A clever lamb, of course.
I'm in love with a Christian, and I'm not afraid to admit it. I consider myself a radical anarchist (as opposed to the look-at-me-I'm-so-cool-I-say-all-the-correct-things kind) and I consider that "she" is every bit as radical as me, even though she's a Christian and, politically, rather conservative. I see a lot of parallels between the anarchists and many Christians. Basically Jesus was one of us, as well as one of "them".
I just want to say I love all things German, especially your hardtechno and schranz. I think Frankfurt might be my spiritual home.
Are you saying that religion has prospered because it causes harm? Because it allows people to cause harm and get away with it? That may well be a common occurrence, and part of the attraction, but I believe that those people are a shameful minority.
Comment by maruli marulaki on August 4, 2012 at 4:52am "What would you do if your partner failed to always be "an atheist, skeptic and apistic"?"
I would feel betrayed, because in this case my partner would have somehow manipulated and tricked me with lies to accept him. It would destroy my love.
"I have very strong views as well, but I try not to hammer them into people's heads."
I have no mission to convince anybody of anything. My ERCP blog has the purpose to find a partner, who reads my posts and discovers, that I am expressing, what he already is thinking independently. The clearer I am in what I say, the better the effect of allowing someone to recognize likemindedness or incompatibility and to avoid futile discussions.
"Are you saying that religion has prospered because it causes harm? Because it allows people to cause harm and get away with it? "
Yes, except not for causing the harm, but for enabling people to do the harm, which their animal instincts urges them to do, while they would not do it, if the had to justify it by their own responsibility instead of acting under their deity's responsibility.
Comment by Simon Paynton on August 4, 2012 at 1:16pm "...enabling people to do the harm, which their animal instincts urges them to do, while they would not do it, if the had to justify it by their own responsibility instead of acting under their deity's responsibility."
I don't think that is how it's supposed to be or was set up to be. However, it's an all-too-common trap and danger.
"My ERCP blog has the purpose to find a partner, who reads my posts and discovers, that I am expressing, what he already is thinking independently. The clearer I am in what I say, the better the effect of allowing someone to recognize likemindedness or incompatibility and to avoid futile discussions."
I can totally see where you're coming from, and I think that's a very good idea. It's just that - god damn! - it seems like nobody could possibly live up to these impossibly high standards. Maybe I'm wrong.
"I would feel betrayed, because in this case my partner would have somehow manipulated and tricked me with lies to accept him. It would destroy my love."
If that was me, I know I would fail on some little thing, and you'd go nuts.
Comment by Simon Paynton on August 5, 2012 at 12:45pm Maruli, I'm sorry to put you through it. I find this website is very good (it's Christian-oriented, but only oriented)
Comment by maruli marulaki on August 5, 2012 at 12:53pm What makes you think I need advice???? I need to find my mindmate or to be found by him. Nothing else. Except anybody knowing him should send him my way.
Comment by Simon Paynton on August 5, 2012 at 2:40pm Fair enough, I wish you luck.
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