This topic would not be about any religion or beliefs. It is something I always wanted to discuss and this topic is happiness. I always asked a question to myself in all this life,does happiness exist? in most of the cases I see people posting pictures and comments on social media on how happy they are.....but in reality, they are not really happy....

It is sad when I discover such thing because I always hoped to be happy like those guys or girls I see on social media but in the end they are not really as happy as I thought. 

I used to follow a young female model on Facebook. She was so inspiring to me and she always posted pictures and posts of happiness,hope.dreams coming true and other inspiring things.One day I opened my account and found out...She took her own life away.........She was suffering from major depression and no one knew(only her family members)....I cried that day,I never cried for a celebrity before but she was so inspiring to me. Smiles,good looks,hopeful face,all turned out as being an illusion.....Not only her,millions of other people take away their lives regardless their financial capabilities,race or the place they are living in. I discovered that people can have all what it takes to be happy, yet they are not happy. Could it be? Happiness; the thing I always hoped for after I leave the place I am currently living in turns out being an illusion?

I was never happy because I suffer from major depressive disorder, but I want to ask everyone of you guys.Are you really happy? or are you just....alive?

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Comment by Simon Paynton on February 15, 2016 at 2:46pm

I'm happy

Comment by Davis Goodman on February 15, 2016 at 4:20pm

I'm mostly happy...but I admit its an evolutionary human trait but highly reconstructed through cultural construction/reconstruction which exaggerates the evolutionary state/emotio to the extreme, which can work so differently from person to person and involves a lot of randomness, which motivates so many different kinds of characters and which is so unstable (likely because of the extremely complicated and even random nature of the cultural construct).

Do celebrities exagerate their sense of happiness to a seemingly continuous state of super-happy, in order to be more appealing to teñir fans and to further their career? Very likely. Are some of them actually depressed and continually baseman hopeless? Probably.

Comment by Rocky john on February 15, 2016 at 6:45pm

Why do you think that happiness is even a desired state of mind in which to regard the world today? We live in a society who's only god is money and who's desire to consume is destroying the very environment we depend upon to sustain us. We live in a world where 62 people have more wealth than half the human population of which millions are dying every day from starvation, from having no access to clean water and from easily cured diseases. We live in a world where great powers, whom could turn the earth into in irradiated slagpit a dozen times over, are one again sizing each other up and having a dick measuring contest while millions of pawns die and suffer  as nothing more but worthless pieces to be thrown away in this game between giants.

So no I am not particularly happy and I would actually be worried if I was. It is just that I don't consider it any sign of great health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick world.

Comment by TJ on February 15, 2016 at 8:07pm

To simplify it...happiness for most humans is relative to unhappiness.

So, some of us are baselined with a bias one way or the other.

What I mean by baselined, is that, generally, from my own observations at least, some people seem to see their life as happy, with unhappy events/periods as the exceptions...

...and others see their life as unhappy, with happy events or periods as the exceptions.

The people who are "happy", generally, fit into the camp of those who perceive the baseline as good, with the bad as salients.

The people who are unhappy reverse that, and see their baseline as unhappy, with good as salient.

A microcosm of that seems to be observable if two of these people pend a day together...say going to the zoo.

One comes home feeling like it was a great day, and he loved seeing the all the critters, and the lions and penguins especially...

...the other says it sucked, the lions and penguins were cool, but everything except that was not as good.

So guy #1 perceived the day as enjoyable, and it made him happy.

Guy #2 perceived the day as walking around all day just to see two exhibits he liked.

They had the same day, but they perceived it differently.

Its like Guy #2 counts the walking between exhibits as the baseline, the good exhibits are exceptions to the time between exhibits, and the overall experience is unhappy.

Guy #1 did not view the time walking between exhibits as baseline, he counted the exhibits as baseline...and was happy.

There is no "right answer" happiness, as far as I know, in that context, has no scale.

But I do know that happy people simply seem to perceive their baseline life differently from those who are unhappy.

Of course, being happy, to me, is not the be all and end all of one's life.  Essentially, happy people don't tend to fight for changes/rebel, etc...because they are happy with the way things are.

Its the unhappiness that can be the catalyst for change.

On the flip side, if happy, maybe you don't want anything to change...and change would be bad.


Comment by Unseen on February 15, 2016 at 9:48pm

Happiness is an illusion the way anything else is an illusion. In other words, if it's not real. 

Any questions?

Comment by Jake LaFort on February 16, 2016 at 4:10am

Rocky John has a pissar answer.

So happiness is simply the chemical cocktail that makes us giddy. I get mine exercising like a loony bird. If science was sufficiently advanced you would receive a happiness treatment and feel happy.

Whether it is an illusion is an open question. But many people feel happy at times. And some portray happy/happy joy/joy as their predominant mental state. The vicissitudes of life can rob any of us who are lucky enough to be happy.

Comment by Simon Paynton on February 16, 2016 at 4:29am

OK, Internet Explorer just destroyed my first answer because it choked on Think Atheist. 

Why don't you check out Steve Taylor:   I really enjoyed his book “Out of the Darkness – from turmoil to transformation”. 

You could have a look at what @Belle said.

I think that if you're lucky, a good metaphor is the crucifixion and resurrection of Jesus.  "Dark night of the soul" just doesn't cut it: anyone can do one night.  How about being squashed flat by a bulldozer and buried six feet under for years. 

I think that Steve Taylor hasn't properly nailed the whole picture, but then, there are probably as many pictures as there are people. 

Comment by Pope Beanie on February 16, 2016 at 5:51pm

Mostly happy. So far it's been a wonderful trip with roadbumps and accidents, especially way back when hormones first kicked in.

Reality vs illusion? One can't exist without the other, right? Unless one is dead. (Right, which one?)

Comment by proudAthiest on February 17, 2016 at 2:46am
Very well said everyone,I really like and respect all your answers,FOr those who are not happy,life IS bullshit sometimes...but really the smart one is the one who is able to extract the good in life,I am not happy myself but I am trying to do or think of something to make me feel at least better at myself,everyone is special in their own way,finding your special feature or talent is going to make you make the most efficient use of yourself,thus you will be happy or at least more satisfied about yourself.For those who are happy, this makes me actually happy that there is actually some hope out there that I can be happy without pretending happy and live more :)
Comment by proudAthiest on February 17, 2016 at 7:30am

I hope so...All I want is to see happy people,a peaceful world and pure hearted people :)


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