Why must the fact that religion is not allowed in our school system the cause of some fucking asshole going into a school and killing fucking almost 30 people (20 children)? I am so FUCKING tired of hearing stupid shit like this. Religion does not make a person good. When is everyone going to fucking wake up, stop being a fucking sheep and think for themselves and start realizing that we make ourselves good, not what we believe in.

---Thank you for listening. :)

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Comment by Tom Sarbeck on December 16, 2012 at 2:13am

First, grrr, back.

Second, dammit, there are not enough police officers to stop the crazies in our midst.

Third, the First Amendment does not prohibit lying by charlatans such as Huckabee and others who want to use religion for their nefarious purposes.

That said, private religion is allowed in public schools! Students are allowed to pray privately at any time, such as before, after, or even during tests or examinations.


The above means no school time prayers led by public employees, or use of taxpayer-provided equipment such as public address systems to distribute religious messages, etc.

While I'm not a First Amendment attorney, I have been for forty years been paying attention to US Supreme Court rulings on religion in public schools. If you see what looks like official sponsorship, endorsement, etc, you have several options.

If you feel sufficiently assertive and confident, talk to whatever public employee who is in charge and tell her/him there may be a violation.

Talk with your parents.

Get some kind of evidence and contact the Freedom from Religion Foundation, via FFRF.ORG. They are paying a lot of attention to school-related religious issues.

Finally, please consider running for public office. Candidates can open doors to places from which they can  deliver their preferred messages, and they can do it without spending a ton of money. You might later consider it the most exciting time of your life. I do.

Comment by Tom Sarbeck on December 16, 2012 at 2:18am

Grrr, again. Go to law school. Places such as FFRF need interns to help their staff attorneys.

Comment by Unseen on December 16, 2012 at 10:44am

The same Amendment(s) that protect atheists from overt government suppression and oppession also protect the average person from being rounded up for reprocessing merely because they seem to have violent potential (sports fans) or a fascination with violence (punkers) or death (goths).

Comment by SteveInCO on December 16, 2012 at 12:08pm

FFRF apparently now had four full time attorneys and they are busier than ever before what with all the idiots pushing the boundaries these days with creche scenes, crosses on water towers, run through banners with babble verses on them, graduation prayers, ten commandment monuments..  I get irritated just thinking about it, but then I suppose if I do so the damn Xians should be happy I am thinking about doG on a Sunday morning.

I send FFRF a fair amount of money every year, earmarked for their legal team.

Comment by Unseen on December 16, 2012 at 3:24pm

It's Psych 101: If you try to force someone to do (or not do) something, you engender what's called "resistance." So, the more we push, expect more pushback.

Comment by Kairan Nierde on January 11, 2013 at 3:17pm

You could ask them back, where was "God" during _________ (insert any number of biblical slayings or actual atrocities inspired by Christianity or taking place within a theocratic environment).


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