honestly, i have no idea what to suppose about this issue of climate change. are we a significant contributor? is it cyclical? i've seen graphs showing that carbon levels cause global warming, and then i've been shown that the warming actually precedes the carbon rises.
climate change skepticism is said to be evil, though in other areas my skepticism is encouraged. who can i trust? who should i believe about climate change? al gore? john stossel? give me a break! somebody just tell the damn truth!
and now we have "climategate." is it a scandal because skeptics were silenced, or because we were lied to? i've been finally reading The Cosmos, and this jumped out at me:

Science is generated by and devoted to free inquiry: the idea that any hypothesis, no matter how strange, deserves to be considered on its merits. the suppression of uncomfortable ideas may be common in religion and politics, but it is not the path to knowledge; it has no place in the endeavor of science. We do not know in advance who will discover fundamental new insights.

i wish i had the funds to devote to an endless life of studies in all the scientific fields, and the mind to absorb it all. i think i could attempt it with my current mind, but not my current wallet. if only, i'd find the truth myself.

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Comment by CJoe on December 2, 2009 at 2:02am
I definitely feel ya on the lack of wallet-stuffing to fund school. I'd love to be a college professor, but alas...
Comment by Matt on December 2, 2009 at 7:10am
As far as climate change goes, this is how I feel. Whether or not it's real, which I feel it is, there is no reason to not change our ways. I don't know about anyone else but it would be nice to have less smog in cities and a fuel source for the world that wont one day run out. Why not tackle the problem early? And if it just so happens that climate change was diverted thanks to our change in habits, then bonus points for us.
Comment by the human michael on December 2, 2009 at 11:51am
i understand the issue, but one more source still doesn't solve the problem of which side is correct. i agree that we should do what we can to lower our environmental footprint, but it does matter if we are being lied to by men of science! i left religion to find truth supported by science, not more lies. both sides claim to have evidence, an both sides make compelling arguments. sigh
Comment by Ashli Axtell on December 2, 2009 at 6:52pm
What Neal said!

I had pretty much the same discussion a few days ago. A friend (and scientist) was asked by his mother, who is a fundie, what his opinion on "global warming was, as a scientist."

He told her that he wasn't a climatologist, so he wasn't really properly educated to speak on the matter, but that some climatologists have predicted in previous decades the climate patterns that we are experiencing now. He said that if she really wanted to know, she should ask a climatologist, not an astronomer.

We discussed various reports which have given evidence of patterns of heating and cooling which are seen in the earth's history (recorded in things like tree rings, for example). You can find one such report graphed here at the EPA's website.

The idea that there's some sort of huge conspiracy within the climatology community in specific and the scientific community in general to convince the world of global warming is quite ridiculous and far-fetched.

In your quote from The Cosmos you wrote:
the suppression of uncomfortable ideas may be common in religion and politics, but it is not the path to knowledge; it has no place in the endeavor of science.

For me, the evidence that the earth is warmer seems pretty undeniable. What we cannot be certain of is precisely how much of an impact humans have made on that warming, though if we are emitting chemicals into the atmosphere which contribute to the trapping of gases which contribute to warming, then one could infer that we are having an impact, and probably a very significant one.

What is the most mind-boggling is where the conflict between religion and global warming comes in. Where in the world did that come from? Why is faith contrary to global warming?


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