Comment by Doug Reardon on December 6, 2011 at 3:24pm

Where does this insane xtian crap come from?

Comment by AbuMaia on December 6, 2011 at 5:25pm

Around January 5, the Earth will be about 91,402,640 miles from the Sun. It will then move away from the Sun until around July 5, when it will be 94,509,460 miles away from the Sun. A distance of 3,106,820 miles. That's quite a bit more than 10 feet, and we neither freeze when we're far away in summer, nor burn up when we're close in in winter.

Comment by Albert Bakker on December 6, 2011 at 5:54pm

They're not exactly fine tuning their claims to reality, that's for sure.

Comment by Jared on December 7, 2011 at 12:47pm

I always love these "facts" that seem to ignore basic truths. Not only that but they try and use the very thing they say is wrong SCIENCE to prove their point and don't even bother to check if the science is even remotely correct.

Comment by Michael on December 7, 2011 at 9:45pm

Physicist have already stacked a sufficient amount of fine tuned parameters to lend credence to the anthropic principle. We need not deviate into the absurd.

Comment by Michael on December 7, 2011 at 9:48pm

I like the steppiing 10 ft up the latter pun.

Comment by Jon Wallace on December 7, 2011 at 11:33pm

I've seen this before, I believe they actually mean 10% not feet.

Comment by James Spillett on December 9, 2011 at 5:23pm

10% is a large difference. If your speaking in terms of fine tuning the 10% claim is not that amazing. That allows for a 9,140,264 mile difference either closer or furthar from the sun assuming that aproximate distance suggested by AbuMaia is relatively accurate (This approximation is for the winter solstice). That gives a total of 18,280,528 mile leeway of the earths position. That makes the argument seem more like the result of chance.

Comment by Michael on December 9, 2011 at 6:22pm

Kir Komrik wrote:

in order to resolve this definitively we need to use what is called variational mechanics; specifically, we need to calculate what is called a Hamiltonian to resolve the *overall* energy difference captured from the Sun by Earth (start as a first order approximation, and as a conservative value to favor the claim made, with all energy incident for all dt) over its full orbital path over a period of time representative of its overall motion; say, a period of time equal to one precession of Earth. But this is overkill. i can tell u looking at these numbers it is silly.

 The Hamiltonian deals with kinetic and potential energy of motion expressed in generalized coordinates. It has nothing to do with radiation.  Moreover the precession of the earth is over at least 26000 years

Comment by Michael on December 9, 2011 at 6:42pm

Yes it is the longest perturbation. The perturbation due to the tidal action of the moon in more frequent. Yes the numbers are ridiculous. the tidal action of the moon, i would suppose, cause a local deviation of at least 10 ft relative to the earth axis.

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